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Old Feb 14, 2020 | 04:19 AM
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Torque with K24/18G

Hi guys, many many years since last time i posted here but still alive !! :-)))
I have a fast question being in the process to change my stock clutch.
I have a K24/18G setup with injectors tuned at 1.32 bar.
Is there anyone who can tell me, approximately, which is the the max torque in NM with this boost ?
I'm installing a 890 NM sachs new clutch that should be ok ... just want some opinions !
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Old Feb 17, 2020 | 12:26 PM
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It's been a while, but I would think you'd be good.
 
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it schould be around 900Nm at 4250 rpm (if you tuned at 1.3 bar at this rpm) Mine hold 900Nm with the sachs clutch perfekt
 
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Ok, as i thought ... i'm close to its limit but it should hold without problems !
I'm really surprised about performance of the stock clutch holding that amount of torque for so many miles.
Thinking about a 1100 NM clutch but the feeling is that i would lose the daily drivability that is something i wouldn't like.
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a 900NM Sachs Clutch is perfekt like stock on a gt2 / a 1100Nm clutch maybe another story
 
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Originally Posted by ThePunisher
Hi guys, many many years since last time i posted here but still alive !! :-)))
I have a fast question being in the process to change my stock clutch.
I have a K24/18G setup with injectors tuned at 1.32 bar.
Is there anyone who can tell me, approximately, which is the the max torque in NM with this boost ?
I'm installing a 890 NM sachs new clutch that should be ok ... just want some opinions !
Thanks
I had problems with the sachs 890nm set-up with K24/18G's and full supporting mods. Went through 3 completely new clutch set-ups with Sachs motorsport GT2 style rigid disc, 890nm pressure plate, DMFW. Each started slipping in less than 1 year. Finally went with Protomotive twin disc. No slipping, locks in/clamps very solidly/very well. That was my solution. It uses the 764 PP, but with two OEM sprung discs and the Sachs LWFW.
 
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the 3.6 mezger with good bolt ons is able to make more then 900Nm with mor than 1.2 bar at 4000rpm / to much boost from down low is the problem, not only for the clutch/ at higher rpm you can go higher with your boost

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Forgot to mention, I run about 1.32 bar, in the summer. The car shows higher boost in cooler weather...
 
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John how do you like the protomotive twin disk set up, did you order whole thing from Todd or did the upgrade?
 
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I am very happy with it - it's a little trickier to drive than a DMF set-up, thus takes a little getting used to. It is similar to a LWF clutch, as it uses a LWF. It works and performs extremely well, such a solid locked in feel when it engages and confidence inspiring that I will not have any slippage. I am used to it now and really enjoy it.
 
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Originally Posted by ThePunisher
Hi guys, many many years since last time i posted here but still alive !! :-)))
I have a fast question being in the process to change my stock clutch.
I have a K24/18G setup with injectors tuned at 1.32 bar.
Is there anyone who can tell me, approximately, which is the the max torque in NM with this boost ?
I'm installing a 890 NM sachs new clutch that should be ok ... just want some opinions !
Thanks
I just found an old dyno - max torque in my case was 610 ft/lb. or 827nm with K24/18G's at 1.27 bar. I have since tweaked the tune to 1.32 bar. IMO, it's borderline at 890nm. I had to go to a twin disc setup to hold the power in cooler weather. The car would overpower a new Sachs motorsport GT2 disc with 764PP. I even tried a tweaked 764PP by Clutchmasters that was supposed to add significant clamping force to an OEM 764. Still didn't hold.





 
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Hey John.
How are you? Hope all is well!!!
 
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Hi Mike,

Everything is great here, I hope everything is good with you as well!

I see you went to a 997 Turbo - congrats!
 
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Hey John, thank you very much for the informations !
I think that we have a very similar setup.
I'll take in strong consideration what you have suggested.
How many HP is supposed to produce, at 1.32 bar, at the engine ?
 
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Hey John, thank you very much for the informations !
I think that we have a very similar setup.
I'll take in strong consideration what you have suggested.
How many HP is supposed to produce, at 1.32 bar, at the engine ?
My dyno guy estimated 690 flywheel HP on race fuel and about 650 flywheel HP on 93 octane.
 
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