I'm pretty sure people here don't envy it... we can buy it, and some here can buy 2 or 3.. so why envy something you can easily have.

 

Somebody finally said it....

 

Thee sure is something going on with the fact that some people cannot accept the fact that the STOCK Z06 if faster than a STOCK TT, GT3 and GT2. Can't understand why some people just cannot accept that fact. It doesn't make the Porsche any better or worse....just slower.

 

IMHO, the C6 ZO6 is a tremendous achievement and a car deserving of everyone's respect, regardless of whether you like the car, and regardless of whether it is or is not faster than any other particular car.

Craig

 

I can't wait until they actually test these 2 cars on the same track with the same conditions instead of everybody throwing out numbers that without normalizing are basically meaningless when compared to each other.

PS : rumor (debated) on the Vette boards that ATI tried to SC an Z06 & wound up blowing a piston through the engine @ 6 psi

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...4&page=1&pp=20

Whether it was a bad tune, or the fact that the car is running compression ratio of 11.1 to 1 & won't react well to FI period is the debate.

 

I may be wrong but the 996 compression higher then 11.1 to 1. There are many S/C options for them. (BTW: the Z06 is a great car.)

 

The stock compression of the 996/997 engines are 11.3 to 1, but realize that Evo took SEVERAL years to develop that SC (and the other 2 that I know of also took several years as well), and it boosts 5 psi to 6 psi at the very edge. With the RUF SC conversion they actually lower compression on the engine. There was an article where Todd stated he had to dial it back once it got close to 500 hp (on the 997S) as he feared the engine would fail. On the M3 (another high compression engine) they have SC's putting out 500+ hp but it requires swapping out rods, piston, reinforcing the engine, etc. Obviously, each engine is different, but at these compression ratios very high care has to be taken.

Don't get me wrong, I think the Z06 is a remarkable car for $70K, just wondering how far they will be able to push this engine without building up the bottom end.

 

I've driven a C6Z, and it is considerably faster than a stock Turbo/Turbo S/lightly modded Turbo.

Quality is pretty good too.

 

Fyi: http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=476649

Craig

 

If the 997 gt3 wouldn't have come out, I would've happily baught a ZO6. I've seen a C6 ZO6 in action on the track and even though it was the first time out on any track for the guy, he did very well. Lots of potential and the best bang for the buck.

 

ok Dragon... there's like 2 people here (if that) who think a chipped 996TT can beat a C6 Z06.. how many members are here in 6speed? and to go off on that LS1 forum (why should we even care what they think) and pass on ignorance of a couple...

besides, saying "car A can take car B" means it is possible the favorite could lose since performance of both are close enough to be a driver's race.

all things equal C6 Z06 wins DUH

Let me also reiterate the C6 Z06 is probably the best bang for the buck car out there.. it's fantastic car.

 

the best thing about the Z06 is that it has raised the bar for all high performance manufacturers

 

I agree 100%. The new Z is forcing the competition back to the drawing board.

I hope the new 997 turbo out performs the C6Z (it should for twice the price), but with only 480 hp, I am a little skeptical. I would have hoped Porsche would have turned the boost up a little more to obtain at least 520+ horsepower.

However, the acceleration times quoted by Porsche sound promising, since they generally are conservative. Let's hope the conservative string continues.

 

The C6Z is the best bang for the buck by a large margin!

If only I could push my track car budget up another $30k, the C6Z would be in my driveway.

 

yeah that's the same boat I'm in.. since you're $30k maybe settle for an Evo or a C5 Z06