sharkster,

Stephen, Kevin and Rob are the exceptions.

 

This is true, Porsche PhD (I believe his real name is Stephen?) seems to provide tons of help to the community. But I just meant in general this doesn't seem to be the case. I forgot who posted on one of the original threads for the big tuner meet (pes, evo, cargraphic etc...) but someone stated that the first day there was lots of tension, as everyone was almost protecting what they had brought to the table. Even though the tension was eventauly relieved, to me it shows the mindset that people came with.

Also, this statement wasn't only towards the tuners that visit these boards but rather a fair amount of tuners in general. I personally am part of an Audi board (I own an A4) and this tuner mindset is to a much greater extent, to the point that some members from one tuner actually left with all the software, and started a new company. Yes, the lawsuits are endless.

Also, IMHO, there may be good reasons for the tuners to do so, but amongst friends I don't see any point in hiding information. It somehow seems to show (to me at least) who really wants to contribute and push the limits of the car (and has a true love for the cars) and who wants to walk around saying he has the biggest ***** (or highest hp etc). And while I would be among the first to be flaunting whatever record I may hold, I certainly doubt I would withhold information (unless specifically told by a tuner that it would affect there sales, marketing etc...).


To cover my *** slightly, all these comments are in general and I promise I am not implying people directly, however this is something I see on the 10+ car boards (porsche, audi, nsx, mb, vw etc...) that I am part of.

To each his own I guess. Also, i have never been in the position that some people on this board have been in so I can't honestly say what I would do, and I can say is what I believe I would do.

 

Frosty, here are two pics of turbo's:

 

I think your missing a screw

In the second pic, there is a flange just left of the turbo intake.

Edit: and i finally understand why your making so much power. NASA seems to be doing the tunning.

 

I have no problem sharing information however I am not very knowledgeable on all the technical sides of things as some others are. I have repeatedley posted on this board for anyone to ask questions about my Stage 5 program and I would answer to the best of my knowledge.

Also, I think going to the shootout showing very well and then driving the car 2500 miles proves that it is a strong and reliable upgrade.

 

Chad - where's the header heat wrap on the picture of the top turbo? I should be getting some IA Stage IV GTR goodies in the mail soon and was wondering if I should wrap the headers before they are installed?

 

Zippy,

Water can hurt headers depending on many things. I don't worry about it because my headers are manufactured from 16 gauge stainless steel which is thicker than others. This thickness makes them more durable along with holds in the heat better. In addition, the upper pic shows the ceramic coating which also protects the stainless steel.

You would have trouble with uncoated 18 or 20 gauge headers. The pic without the heat wrap is an earlier pic.

 

Yes, but the K16 hot side can also be a limiting factor.

I would also be curious to know how much faster your car would be than mine from 0-185. I do believe that my car could stay with yours, and the difference is not as big as you might think.

In order for you to beat my car's 0-60 time by over a second, you would need to break 2 seconds, which I doubt is possible even with all your crazy mods.

 

I agree with Tyson and the fact that nothing pulls from 100 mph and up like the T04 baby. My car pulls as hard in 5th gear as it does in 2nd. So you guys with little turbo's might get a jump from the start but then when Tyson and I get our giant hairdryers pumping it is

SEE YA!

This was backed up in the quarter mile testing as Tyson and I had the highest trap speed. 132 for me and 131 for Tyson.

 

Yup.

Beyond the quarter mile, the gap widens even further, as the Turbos are really in their element.

But you need some open road to really see the difference. Obviously in short bursts between traffic or a short straight, the difference will not be as pronounced.

 

Hoping to see that at the open road race!

 

Hamann,

The difference being .....you have to shift to get to sixty. In addition, with your 3.80 ratio for first, you either spin your tires or just don't use your power. My ratio is within .02 of what the Carrera GT is using.

Food for thought. If the K16's are going to get wooped past 100 mph, why then is my peak hp developed at 7400 rpm's. I believe if those with the real big hot turbo's and large impellers checked it out, they would find their 0-185 mph time to be over twenty-one seconds. That would put them about 3.5 seconds behind.

There is alot more to it than just hp. For instance, when you shift at redline or wherever, where are you on your rpm graph? Are you making use of your sweet spot? I would venture to guess most people couldn't tell you because it has never been looked into. This is not a flame or meant to be disrespectful to anyone.

 

I think we should set up a day soon to go to a drag strip and see what happens?

 

I want to see a head to head competition (straight line) between the Kevin Specials 16/24 coated hybrids and the 4-GT (k24 based Garrets). Let's get this out of the closet!

Mike

 

There is alot to compare if thats what your trying to get to , I.e turbos itself , output ? , Compressor Wheel (Trim,Inducer,Major,) Compressor Housing (inlet,outlet,A/R) Turbine Wheel (trim,major,exducer) Exhaust Housing (inlet flange,outlet flange,a/r) , due to that you would need to get different tuning , i dont think IA640 with ZC turbos uses the same software as the evo stage4 GT