SICKO!! Keep you pictures to yourself perv.

 

I would love to see some picts of this intake system.

 

Your car would need to be custom tuned if you plan on installing these. Correct me if I'm wrong, but a few people have tried this as they thought it would have increased HP and Torque as a direct bolt on piece. There was a significant decrease in torque.

Just be aware that you would need to have your ecu tuned to accomodate that piece.

 

Ryan,

It depends where your afr's are before you start. If you are on the rich side you will get an improvement without adjusting the ecu.

 

YSITSMN,
Here are some pics of the S Car Go Racing carbon fiber intake.

 

Ryan, I think you're refering to the ScarGO Header bit that was a dissapointment to someone (without a re-tune).

 

Zip,

Not mistaken. Its the intake. Your ecu needs to be retuned specifically to accomodate the intake. Now how would you conventiently do that if you had a GIAC or other chip?

Chad, right, depending on the AFR. But I think Fred and Nelson (from funcars) lost significant torque and decided to remove the intake. If you are close by a tuner who can test and install and retune, then I guess you will have better luck than someone ordering it and installing it from another state, without a tuner at your beck and call. (no flame intention here) just my 2 cents.

-RS

 

Chad,

How much is the intake?

 

group buy??

 

Also, is the whole thing one or multiple pieces?? Carbon fiber would not be my first choice material (I htink the RUF hose style one is less fragile) so if it is multi-pieced and you break one you can replace that piece only as these arent cheap!!

 

msindi:

Before you do anything with yours, bring the car up here and let us take a look at it. That hose we have been using for custom intakes would be perfect for this depending on temp. surroundings. Hurry back man, spring is in the air!!

 

Ryan,

How do they interface with EVO or IA? I believe you would have to ask Todd and Stephen. Todd has purchased several of these units and Stephen is currently testing with one.

Msindi,

They are multiple units. The red silicone hose (in above pics) is the connection points. You can replace pieces. The only person I know to have broken one was Fred. The person who installed his suspension did so incorrectly. S Car Go Racing replaced the intake piece along with paid for the damaged turbo's. The reason they did this was Fred had the first product after my prototype and there was not any cautions about the suspension. We all learned from Fred's experience. The cautions are now there. Make sure your suspension is correctly installed and tightened with the proper lock nuts and lock tight. There have been no problems when the installation instructions are followed. No doubt, the Ruf (along with other manufacturer's hoses and aluminum) is far less fragile. Probably close to indestructable. They are also heavier, have less flow area, have more flow restriction and act as a heat sink which delivers hotter air and less oxygen per cylinder charge. I am not argueing about a trade off, there is one. However, I don't believe there is any arguement that the S Car Go Racing intakes deliver more power than any other intake.

Now that I have said that, I would like to make a note. Protomotive eliminates the air box and runs tubes from the turbo to cone filters under the rear fenders. These tubes are short, deliver alot of air, and induce alot more turbo noise into the cabin. They are efficient. I would say they are at least an equal to the S Car Go Racing system. Tubes which I believe are made of aluminim would pick up turbo and intercooler heat and which will deliver less oxygen per cylinder charge, however the routing is shorter which lends to a more efficient flow. At any rate it is a different system and is a good or possibly better system.

 

Chad is the protomotive system a direct bolt on? Or is custom cutting/tweaking necessary?

 

The Protomotive system is not a direct bolt on.

The software definitely has to be retuned, and the MAF's get relocated to downstream of the Turbos.

But it works, and it works extremely well.

 

Ryan,

I know Todd from Protomotive views these forums now and then. Hopefully, he is watching and would feel comfortable about answering questions regarding his system. I would be the wrong person to answer questions regarding his system. I considered using it at one time but decided to let Rob prototype one instead. My main concern had nothing to do with performance. It had to do with turbo noise in the cabin.