PM sent. Thanks Mike

 

Edmonton tomarrow Markski, put some snow tires on. Send me a PM next time you are around on a warm day, we'll go for a spin.

 

in terms of reliability, i've put about 12k miles on my gt700 now - only 1 issue (fairly serious but it was a complete freak thing - 1/1,000,000 chance - and James/Sharky have alreay devised a solution.) no, i won't go into it (please, no PMs), but i had far more issues w/ my protomotive set-up (and no, i won't go into those either.) everything that can will break on my car - for the gt700 to survive 12k miles is a testament to its dependability.

very happy w/ the power on 91 or 100 (although 100 gets quite addictive.) i've gone w/ the stock airbox and, at these power levels, there's a negligible difference. stock airbox = no blown MAFs.


the biggest factor, and it's been mentioned before, in other threads - go w/ a tuner that you get along with. and, preferably, they are somewhat nearby so you can go to them w/ problems (instead of shipping ECUs or cars across the country/continent when something goes wrong.) the latter was the main driver in my decision (but yes, Sharky is a nice guy too )

- chuck

 

Chuck,

Is it really fair to say that a car that has another company's Turbos, another company's OEM ported/polished headers, another company's exhaust, a stock intake with another company's filter...but with Protomotive tuning, has a "Protomotive setup"? I wouldn't call that a "Protomotive setup" anymore than I would call it an "EVOMS setup" were it using EVOMS/GIAC software, or a "RUF setup" were it using RUF software.

I only mention this because a true Protomotive setup uses Protomotive everything, since all of the pieces were designed to work with one another.

As far as I know...those of us that have true "Protomotive setups" on this forum have had zero negative issues (myself included).

I would ask that all of us always remain fair and accurate when commenting on these types of things...regardless of which company we are talking about.

 

Chuck (carndt242),
Last correspondence I show with you was just prior to recal for the profec to control your boost better with those hybrid K16's/actuators that Stephen had put on the car before you purchased it.
We have always been noted for customer satisfaction and are disappointed that you did not share any issues with us that should have been remedied with your combination.
I'm glad you've found a happy combination with your car though... That's what's most important.

Todd Knighton
Protomotive Inc.

 

Mark, I thought you were going to be in Calgary? Give me a call if you're coming to Edmonton!

 

+1 - best response so far.

 

168 - if a 700 HP kit is what you are after, the coices are very limited. They are, in no particuliar order: 1) EVO and 2) Protomotive. EVO has the MAF issue hanging over thier head. I believe (HOPE) this will be reconciled in the near future. https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=820917#post820917

Kevin of UMW, originally from Edmonton (so he has to be a great guy), will have his stage 3 kit available soon. It is supposed to be a similiar power level as EVO and Proto equivalent kits.

The reason Orton and FVD are not having a MAF issue is not that they have a fix, it's that they are not surpassing the HP limit of the OEM MAF.

 

Hi Chuck, since you brought this up I was under the impression that you were running too much boost on a lower octane rating causing some detonation issues. As I recall your turbos were also smoking badly and you eventually had to have the motor rebuilt. The boost controller that Proto uses gets the customer involved in boost selection and the relationship of fuel octane settings. Hence running high boost with 91 octane could be fatal. I hardly think you could blame Protomotive for this failure

 

I lov emy gt700+ It's fast. It boosts immediately and it runs fast. Enough said. Cars fun! Whoevers in the budget for some NA feeling thunder. Please look into this package. Next purchase. EUROPIPE EXHUAST SOMEONE HELP?!

-Suman

 

Alex, would running on 91 octane affect the reliability of a car that has a GT 700?, or would it just lower performance, if so, how much, HP wise?

 

Just asking Mike (zippy) about that. Heard they are great, but get ready to shell out some $$$

 

I believe the 94 gas-o-hol is a better option than straight 91. I seem to be able to run more timing in my suburban @ 11PSI with the 94. The 92 gas-o-hol is more dangerous than straight 91 IMO. I believe the regular 700 file from EVO was tuned for 91 straight gas.

 

i don't want to get into the political tuner debates.

we may never know why the motor blew - and i've never speculated on that publicly. it's a turbo motor, running high boost, who knows. was i running 91 @ high boost when it blew? of course not. did i get some bad gas? maybe. overheated injector b/c of the 5-bar FPR? possibly. could it have been a million other factors? absolutely.

i moved on long ago - the main lesson i took away: if i can't work on the car myself, i will go w/ a solution that a nearby tuner can support.

it's much easier when the person who provides the solution can also work on the car. since sharkwerks is 1/2 hour from my house (and close enough to BART), it's quite easy to drop off the car, do my business, and pick it up @ my leisure.


if you believe you will never have an issue w/ your car once it's tuned, then go with whoever you have the best relationship with. this has been stated on the forum many times, even by Todd @ Protomotive himsef.

however, given that my car is seemingly cursed, i need someone nearby to help me when things go awry (in addition to a good relationship.)


all that said, i've been very happy w/ my gt700.

- chuck

 

Any more thoughts on this Alex? I've been looking more into what the kit come with. I've been told to upgrade the intercoolers, what else do you think one should upgrade?

Thanks