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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 08:58 PM
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Battery - Need help?

I need to know if my problem is my battery or the alternator

The car had a new battery installed 1 year ago / 7k miles.

Since last week when I had my Zeitronix unit installed, the install shop had my doors, hood and spoiler all open for like 8 hours at a time. When they went to start the car at the end of the day, the battery was dead! We jumped it and it was fine. I drove it home (20 minutes) or so and it was parked in my Garage for a week without driving it. I started it up with no Problems on Monday (week later) and drove it all day and again today with no problems until I had my Detailers wash my car this afternoon. They left the doors open for like 45-60 mnutes while the detailed the inside (door & doom lighst on) and they tried to start and the battery was dead. They jumped it and let it run for 5 minutes and turned the car off again, it was dead once again. We jumped again and I drove it home (20 minutes of driving) and now it starts ok.... There are no problems when I am driving.....

I stopped at Autozone on the way home so they could test it and the Alterator only tested at like 13 Volts at 2k rpm and the battery was at 12.5 - 13.0 volts...

Is it my alternator or my batter?

Please advise and sorry for the long novel!
 
Old Jan 25, 2007 | 09:26 PM
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You want to look for Amps on the alternator output, for the most part. 13-14 volts is good, but if its only 1-50Amps, alternator isnt giving the battery a good charge. Normal 996/986 alternator amp rates should be around 100, 90-110 or so, this recharges your battery. For the record, the cayenne uses a water cooled 220 amp alternator...
 
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It is not likley that the alternator is bad from what you describe. Most probably the battery's capacity is diminished.this happens when they fully discharged a few times, Common on these cars because they sit and drain from the imobilizer system, doors open from your service. I would go for a new battery not OEM .Make sure connections are clean and tight.
 
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Keep the opinions coming! I am hoping its just a battery as well!
 
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 01:16 AM
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I also think it's the battery, just had the same things happen to mine. I replaced it with a yellow top Optima and the problems went away. I don't think a weak alt. is going to put out 13 volts at 2k if it's on it's way out.
 
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Just the battery.. had the same thing happen to me...
 
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OK since everyone says battery (which by the way I would get a new one at this point anyway) I go with the alternator. these alternators fail in two ways either completely, or what yours is doing low end failure then it goes.
Have a dealer check it, I really think that is your problem, it is exactly what mine did and it then completely failed at the track!!
 
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Sounds just like my situation last week. It all started after a couple weeks in Hawaii and a cold garage; then prolonged work done on the car (radar) with the door open; add in a lot of errands (ergo starting the engine multiple times).

I was spooked, but it was as simple as a battery swap and she turns over like new now. My tech advised I had the original battery and it was time to put her down.

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OK since everyone says battery (which by the way I would get a new one at this point anyway) I go with the alternator. these alternators fail in two ways either completely, or what yours is doing low end failure then it goes.
Have a dealer check it, I really think that is your problem, it is exactly what mine did and it then completely failed at the track!!
Tom - What did the new alternator cost you with install?

What are some ways I can test to see if its an alternator or a battery?
 
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Originally Posted by vanboost
Sounds just like my situation last week. It all started after a couple weeks in Hawaii and a cold garage; then prolonged work done on the car (radar) with the door open; add in a lot of errands (ergo starting the engine multiple times).

I was spooked, but it was as simple as a battery swap and she turns over like new now. My tech advised I had the original battery and it was time to put her down.

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I would almost think battery too, but the battery was replaced 1 year ago?
 
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The battery is easy to test, just pull it and take it to Auto Zone and have them test it (FREE) for cc amp output. I would bet it's the battery.
 
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I would say it's the battery as it charged once after you had it running, which would suspect the alternator is working fine. If you run a battery down a few times it will more than likely not be holding the charge. I would just go and get it checked before you spend money buying both!
 
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996TT Stevo is correct, you can jump a car with a dead battery and get it up and running. However, if the alternator is defective it would not charge the battery for the next start; it's the battery.
 
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Originally Posted by AzExoticLover
Tom - What did the new alternator cost you with install?

What are some ways I can test to see if its an alternator or a battery?
Anywhere with an amp/volt meter to check the alternator output.

Rebuilt alternators can be had for $250. Of course I got the new warrantied porsche one about $650 and install I think cost 1k
 
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Originally Posted by tom kerr
Anywhere with an amp/volt meter to check the alternator output.

Rebuilt alternators can be had for $250. Of course I got the new warrantied porsche one about $650 and install I think cost 1k
1k total with install or 1k for just the install alone??
 
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