Sport Compact Car did a Toulene mixture batch as well. They did a 15 gallon tank with 10%, 20%, & 30% (4.5 gallons) toulene mixture (above 30% they said you poor vaporization and slow combustion), but the gas went from 92.1 octane to 95.5 octane with a 30% mixture (+3.4).

 

If you go to the link on the Corvette forum, the guy swears that it prevented knock and had the dyno to back it up. He also wasn't affiliated. Also, the guy I spoke w/ at MTI said 1 32 oc container would get 7 gallons of 93 to 99/100. I imagine that he might exagerate a bit, but I bet the octane is significantly improved. I am going to try it.

I will also buy some of their 104 unleaded race gas for $6.50 a gallon and compare the 2.

 

That sounds about right. Thanks. Now you could use the higher xylene but you'd have to add a small amount of ATF as a lubricant. But, is it really worth doing all this especially with the price of toluene and xylene? I dont think so. Race gas is probably cheaper and less of a hassle.
Also, its hard to believe something with on 32oz can raise it that high...but you never know...

 

Trust me I've seen it work myself in a EVO VIII. He tested it for Jayson had it get like 5 or more of knock and put it in with the same tune and it took it all away.

I do not work there, but I am a customer of MTI (and my good friend is the head mechanic). I know first hand its been tested and works like it's suppose to.

 

As R Reagan (remember him?) said, "Trust but verify." If it has been tested and proven to work, you would think the testing procedure and results would be part of the marketing for the product...but it's not. Hmmm. Simba's points don't require trust...they are simply published facts and deserve greater cred than naked marketing claims...for me, anyhow. This product sounds too good to be true and we all know what that means.

 

I'm confused...you say it is proven...are you actually measuring the octane rating? Sounds like you are just testing performance and there are way too many variables to claim it is due to the octane booster. I have to agree with several of the posters above questioning this product...the chemistry just does not add up. They have already mentioned the known additives for increasing octane rating...unless someone has invented some new chemical compound...I don't buy it!

 

Here is some info most of you all probably have seen it though.
This is a friend of mine and my brother was with him during the test. He wasn't able to do much more testing due to the area he was in.

This is the test they had done on 15gallons with 32oz of Octanium. I think they are going to be posting more testing as they get it done to clear them selves of some of the "myths" other companies have made.


Like I said most of you will not believe it unless you see someone with it. The company has one the Super Tuner Shootout, been in Motortrend, Car & Driver, etc.. I don't think they'd sell something like this thats junk out on the market...

Its only $18, it's not like its $100's of dollars for one bottle. Can't hurt to test it If I had something that needed it I would.

 

You need to run a few oz of ATF or MMO with toluene as well.

It's right on the line. Toluene is around $5 a gallon when you buy it in a 20 gallon half-drum, or about $7 if you buy it by the gallon. Sunocco GT100 is ~$6 in my neck of the woods.

I generally just mix up with race gas as it's simpler, and I can go to greater than 30% without running into fuel heating issues.

Anyway, I ordered a few bottles of this stuff. I think I'll send one to a friend of mine at dupont and see what the magic beans are made of.

 

Chris,

It seems that one container should significantly reduce knock for 14 gallons of gas.

Raising 93 to 98 for $1.20 per gallon is a hell of a deal, if true.

Good product in any case, I think, and very convienient. I like the idea of just putting a bottle in when I fill up. Going to definately get some this weekend.

Oh, and Chris, I need to know if you are going to make it this Sat. Wife needs to know how much to cook.

 

that is about the most ignorant thing i've read on this forum (and that's saying *a lot.*) you've obviously never rebuilt an engine. can't hurt to test? $15k hurts...


simba, i would really like to see the results. i have no idea how to get a scan done myself, but if you have access, and if it requires $$$, i'd be willing to chip in.

this product is probably too good to be true; but if it's not, it would solve a lot of problems for me (mainly, getting stuck in the middle of nowhere and being forced to drop down to the 91 program.)

- chuck

 

ya really...you beat me to it.

 

Well, right now I am going to pick up 5 gallons of VP 109. I will slowly introduce the octanium (pick some up tomorrow if I have time). The guy on the Vette forum sears by it, so it seems that evidence is building that it is a good product.

 

I've never rebuilt an engine? I know the cost involve with rebuilding anything. I've had to have the motor in my LS1 built and it was close to $10k (and I had the crank/rods/heads/valvetrain ) so I do understand. My brother has an MTI LS2 427, it's the car on their front page where it says "Check out one of our LS2 427's in action", so I trust the product and people that make it. I was around when they first talked about it and watch them do PLENTY of testing for Xcelacorp to make sure it was something that it would work. Please don't take that as being a dick, but I do not like having my post being called ignorant.

I do realize that it is a new product. I can also understand that if it was something I'd never heard of, I would not want to test it. I am saying it is a good product and will not hurt anything. I'm not going to say go throw it in the car and turn the boost up. Hopefully the people that test it will post up the good results. I'm working on getting my friend to run a test on it also. They originally talked to him to have it done at the company he works for, but not sure what ever came of it.

 

I'm not saying that I don't beleive in the product. It has nothing to do with the product at hand. Just because something is cheap does not mean I would just try it out on a p-car. It was the statement that I was commenting on.

 

I understand. Hopefully it does work good for the people testing, because I know it worked well with the EVO and CajunDudes (800rwhp with Meth. which is not needed with this mix). Mine is stock so anything over 93 still isn't going to do anything for me

Regardless it will be nice to see some outside test results. I asked Jayson to register on here so he could give all the details he has, but not sure how long it would be before he posted. Plus if the Porsche owners like it maybe I can convince him to do some work on the P cars