Is a 997S faster than a stock 996TT?
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I think on straight line the Turbo is the one to beat...
on a curvy road the 997S might be able to run with Turbo because many factors enter this type of situation... driver, lag, PASM, etc...
of course all this at sea level because here in Puebla at 2500 meter altitude nothing touches a Turbo, not even an F430...
let us know your findings...
on a curvy road the 997S might be able to run with Turbo because many factors enter this type of situation... driver, lag, PASM, etc...
of course all this at sea level because here in Puebla at 2500 meter altitude nothing touches a Turbo, not even an F430...
let us know your findings...
Originally Posted by C4S Surgeon
The 997S ran the 'ring faster than a base 996TT, that's the only concrete info I have.
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When the 997 S came out I saw a review of a 3.9 0-60 dont know if thats accurate. But a 996 TT is around 4.0 0-60 so its a litle edge there over the Carrera S. But the TT qtr mile is prob 12 sec @ around almost 117 where the Carrera S would prob be 12 @ 109. Either way 2 awesome cars. But the TT is a beast and would LOVE too see a vid of this. Come on guys GIT R DONE
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Originally Posted by 996CABOVA
When the 997 S came out I saw a review of a 3.9 0-60 dont know if thats accurate. But a 996 TT is around 4.0 0-60 so its a litle edge there over the Carrera S. But the TT qtr mile is prob 12 sec @ around almost 117 where the Carrera S would prob be 12 @ 109. Either way 2 awesome cars. But the TT is a beast and would LOVE too see a vid of this. Come on guys GIT R DONE
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Originally Posted by iLLM3
Straight line it isnt as fast, but around the track it was quicker!
Originally Posted by Divexxtreme
It's actually the other way around. The 997S ran a best of 8:05. The 996TT ran 7:56.
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The 997s ran the 'ring in 7:59, 7:52 with Walter Rohrl in '05 as I recall. The TT was more like 8:05. The TT has more hp, but the S did run the 'ring faster, of course it's an 8 mile track with a lot of variations but it's the one standard people seem to rely upon.
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Originally Posted by C4S Surgeon
The 997s ran the 'ring in 7:59, 7:52 with Walter Rohrl in '05 as I recall. The TT was more like 8:05. The TT has more hp, but the S did run the 'ring faster, of course it's an 8 mile track with a lot of variations but it's the one standard people seem to rely upon.
http://www.trackpedia.com/wiki/Nurburgring
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Originally Posted by ashokn225
Nah man, Sport Auto ran the 'ring with a 996tt in 7:56. The 997s was 7:59.
http://www.trackpedia.com/wiki/Nurburgring
http://www.trackpedia.com/wiki/Nurburgring
Try this
http://www.einszweidrei.de/ (updated)
or
http://www.track-challenge.com/main_e.asp
Ultimate link:
http://www.track-challenge.com/main_...r1=85%26Car2=4
The only place where the 997 would stand a chance is on a smaller, twisty circuit. Remember the Ring has no hairpins, power and torque rules
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Best Motoring had a nice video segment on this. In the 1/4 mile (400 m) the 911 TT was substantially faster than the Carrera S. The TT was in the 12.3's, the Carrera S was in the 12.8's. This was from a non launch start (did not want to damage the trannies). If the TT had a chance to use the AWD traction I think the difference would have been even worse.
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Originally Posted by Erik
A lot of those times aren't reliable. Look at the RS4 for instance!
Below is a list of cars tested on the Nürburgring by Sport Auto magazine. Sport Auto is considered the #1 source in the world for accurate Nurburgring times. Only independently tested times by Sport Auto mag are in the list. *No factory times are listed*. If a car isn't shown on the list, it's because Sport Auto has not tested it yet.
-They always uses the same driver; Editor-in-Chief, Horst Von Saurma.
-They always test the cars exactly they way they left the factory.
-They list all pertinent details, such as; air temp, asphalt temp, road conditions, tire type, etc...
Porsche Carrera GT ------------------------------------- 7.32 min
Porsche GTR 600 Gemballa ---------------------------- 7.32 min
Pagani Zonda F ----------------------------- 7.33 min
Koenigsegg CCR --------------------------- 7.34 min
Porsche Carrera GT ------------------------------------- 7.40 min (wet track)
Porsche 911 Techart GT (620hp) ---------------------- 7.43 min
Pagani Zonda S ----------------------------------------- 7.44 min
Porsche 911 GT2 (462hp) ------------------------------ 7.46 min
Porsche 996 GT3 RS ----------------------------------------- 7.47 min
Porsche 997 GT3 ----------------------------------------- 7.48 min (R-compounds)
Lamborghini Murciélago -------------------------------- 7.50 min
BMW M3 CSL -------------------------------------------- 7.50 min (R-compounds)
Ford GT -------------------------------------------------- 7.52 min
Lamborghini Gallardo ----------------------------------- 7.52 min
Mercedes SLR ------------------------------------------- 7.52 min
Porsche 911 GT3 (2003) ------------------------------- 7.54 min
Mercedes CLK-DTM ------------------------------------- 7.54 min
Ferrari F430 ------------------------------------------- 7.55 min
Porsche 911 Turbo (996) ---------------------------- 7.56 min
Ferrari 360 CS ------------------------------------------- 7.56 min
Lotec-Porsche 993 BiTurbo (1998) --------------------- 7.57 min
Porsche 911 GT3 (old) ---------------------------------- 8.03 min
Aston Martin V8 Vantage --------------------------------- 8.03 min (R-compounds)
Lamborghini Diablo GT --------------------------------- 8.04 min
Porsche Carrera S (997) -------------------------------- 8.05 min
Ferrari 575M --------------------------------------------- 8.05 min
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Originally Posted by MexicoBlue
OK, OK, fine. I'll race a stock 996tt in my 997S. Let's just get this over with, so we can all band back together and start hating on the Vette and M3 boys again . . .
I feel for you, fellow 6speeder.