Yes !! He does sound like a Mobster !! But i give him credit, he interviewed well enough to sorta look like a garage tv show.

 

Although Al's camera work rivals people who's age is in the single digits...

 

"Hey Vinnie, nice Porsh . . . Ill bet I could out run the cops in this . . . do you think I could fit a body in the trunk? . . . Wait a second, where the hell is the trunk?"

Im just kidding, of course. I'm sure he knows his **** . . . its just funny to hear him discuss the venerable "Porsh."

Craig

 

Nice man big congrats, numbers could have been even better as mentioned with proper cooling placement

 

For comparsion, stage 4 when I tested did 528 RWHP and 598RWTQ. Nice runs, I am sure it would have been more had the fans been correct.

 

Andrew Dice Clay comes to mind

 

No it won't need to be re-flashed. I ran the prototype in my car for a few months here in Az, and have been running the real deal in my car for another couple of months. The car was never re-flashed. Congrats by the way!!

 

Hey, thanks for the props guys.

chinitowest= can you open up the throttle on those long desert AZ highways ?

 

What is the point of all of that ?

After all, what we are doing is testing to verify that an off the shelf reflash map sent by email and the parts installed are making power as advertised.

Are you foolish enough to ASSsume that we do not carefully road test each car to verify knock free and smooth operation on the road?

Why would we need 10 fans blowing on the car? After all the tuning aspect of the project has already been competed and we have no tuneable parameters to adjust. That is the concept of a base flash - its already tuned.

Of course actual TUNING on a dyno - that is mapping an ecu would require different levels of thermal efficiency as you would expect the tuning could replicate real world conditions.

Correct me if I am missing something here.

 

Al I think it would be to acquire more accurate horsepower figures thats all.

 

Who cares? The customer does not drive a dyno sheet. Anyone with some experience in these matters knows that a dyno is a tool used to replicate real world conditions and quantify power gains and losses.

Are you saying the car is going to make more power with more air flow through the i/c's (denser air).

At the same time, presumably the car will also be more knock prone and likely to exhibit heat soak with less air flow the ic's.

We could have two kids laying there on the floor and spraying the i/c's with a mist of water and alcohol to cool them off during the pulls also, I still dont know what

I think the car made decent power gains without any additional air flow.

Ok so with less fans - he made less power - but as long as we keep the testing protical the same through the base line and final runs we are measuring the power gains and losses which is what a chasiss dyno is used for.

I, personally, think with the cost associated with those reflashes custom tuning on the dyno and road should be included - but it seems for some strange reason when you are dealing with a more costly vehicle you pay more money and get less.

 

Not necessarily, some tuners for example Stephan do custom tunes. Also people aren't paying more and receiving necessarily less, all of the companies that flash these cars stand by their product incase of an incident or anything along those lines. Alot of research and development goes to every product thats created for these cars to ensure its quality and reliability, and if perhaps something goes wrong each company will stand by their product and do anything to make sure the customer is happy in the end.

 

To each his / her own

I don't know what could go wrong - are you saying they warranty the motors if they blow up or that they replace ecus that get fried?

 

There hasn't been an occasion in the history of 996TT's/997TT's that a motor has blown, or an ECU thats gotten fried.

Anyone correct me if I'm wrong.

 

So what are we talking about then with those high prices ? I have flashed many hundreds of Evo and Subaru ecus with maybe a hand full of bad ecus and no tuning related engine failures that I know of.

How exactly are these outfits standing behind the product for the extra expense?