996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

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Old May 26, 2007 | 09:24 AM
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I think its funny that people have made comments about the Vette being a drag car. A ZO6 is a better handling car than the Turbo and every bit as good as a GT2 or GT3.

You talk about modded TT's, what if you start modding a ZO6? For a fraction of the price of Porsche mods you can make a ZO6 an even better car.

Porsche does more R&D? If you call carbon fiber fenders and composite floor boards plastic than the 911 is a tin can. Bottom line, Corvette is using advanced materials on their car and its faster than the car without them. Thats just good old fashion one upmanship.

They are both great cars but belittling the Vette will not make the Porsche a better car. IMO, saying anything negative about the Vettes perfomance prowess is just ignorant.

The fact that Corvette is closing the gap is great for all of us and if anything you should be happy that they continue to apply pressure on Porsche to make a better car.
 
Old May 26, 2007 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 05997S
I think its funny that people have made comments about the Vette being a drag car. A ZO6 is a better handling car than the Turbo and every bit as good as a GT2 or GT3.
No, not really. The Z06 doesnt even handle better than the 996 GT3 or GT2 not to mention the 997's. It may handle better than a stock turbo but not by much and only because of weight. It may be faster than all of them but mostly due to hp/weight ratios, if they were equal the vette couldnt beat any of the p-cars. But I agree the vette is much more than a drag car.

Other than that, this is a porsche forum so you should expect chevy to get bashed, if your on corvette forum the opposite occurs, it's the way of life on the internet.
 
Old May 26, 2007 | 09:35 AM
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There is no way a z06 handles just as good as a gt2 or gt3.
 
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Originally Posted by 05997S
every bit as good as a GT2 or GT3.
You are wrong on that one buddy. Bing a helmet to the next track event and Ill take you around for a few laps.
 
Old May 26, 2007 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by LUIS95993
You are wrong on that one buddy. Bing a helmet to the next track event and Ill take you around for a few laps.
Right on. I am down for that. PM me the next time you are going. I am going to try to stop by the coffee GTG tomorrow.
 
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Right on. I am down for that. PM me the next time you are going. I am going to try to stop by the coffee GTG tomorrow.
Cool, see you there.
 
Old May 26, 2007 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
No, not really. The Z06 doesnt even handle better than the 996 GT3 or GT2 not to mention the 997's.
Other than Luis' personal experience with a local ZO6, all the other info suggests that is not the case at all. Nring times, videos from track days and personal experiences all suggest the ZO6 is definetly as capable of those cars if not moreso.

I do understand its a Porsche board but I also feel like I can rely on 6speeders to be more objective, that is my opinion in general though there are some fair minded people at corvetteforum as well.

Who am I kidding though, internet bench racing keeps my day job interesting.
 
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Originally Posted by 05997S
Other than Luis' personal experience with a local ZO6, all the other info suggests that is not the case at all.
I also have some time behind the wheel of a C6 Z06 with mods and while it was a beast, it was lacking in the suspension and braking department. Some Motons and some bigger Brembos would make it hard to beat on a track with a good driver behind the wheel. Out of the Box, it has nothing on the stock GT2/GT3 setup.
 
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Originally Posted by 05997S
Other than Luis' personal experience with a local ZO6, all the other info suggests that is not the case at all. .
Originally Posted by 05997S
A ZO6 is a better handling car and every bit as good as a GT2 or GT3.
Motor trend disagrees. The z06 couldn't even beat the cayman.

http://www.motortrend.com/features/1...car/index.html
 
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There is no way a z06 handles just as good as a gt2 or gt3.
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Originally Posted by 05997S
I think its funny that people have made comments about the Vette being a drag car. A ZO6 is a better handling car than the Turbo and every bit as good as a GT2 or GT3.
Yes, I couldn't get a Vette so I had to settle for a GT2

From your statement, it's obvious that you haven't driven, let alone tracked any of the 3. I have and I can tell you that your supposition is incorrect.


Originally Posted by 05997S
You talk about modded TT's, what if you start modding a ZO6? For a fraction of the price of Porsche mods you can make a ZO6 an even better car.

Here we go again did you read the entire thread?
Originally Posted by RennTechV12
I have raced AND BEATEN several C6 Z's. I have beaten 3 on the drag strip. 2 on the road course and 3 or 4 on the street. A guy in our club has one with heads, cams, intake, headers and catback and a tune. I waxed him. It may be a great car for the money, blah, blah, blah...It makes me yawn

Luis (in his GT3) and I waxed one (on slicks, with mods) on the roadcourse earlier this year.
Mod for Mod, huh? I have bolt-ons and a tune, he has had extensive internal engine mods plus the same external mods as me, but he still got walked.

I guess that my problem is that I deal with the real world and my OWN experiences and not what a magazine or some dude on a forum says to base my "facts" on.
 
Old May 26, 2007 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 05997S
Other than Luis' personal experience with a local ZO6, all the other info suggests that is not the case at all. Nring times, videos from track days and personal experiences all suggest the ZO6 is definetly as capable of those cars if not moreso.

I do understand its a Porsche board but I also feel like I can rely on 6speeders to be more objective, that is my opinion in general though there are some fair minded people at corvetteforum as well.

Who am I kidding though, internet bench racing keeps my day job interesting.
I thought I made it clear that handling is not just a function of HP vs weight which is the only reason the vette beat the 996 cars around the track. Both the 997 Turbo and 997 GT3 have run faster ring times than the vette. But I'm not a bench racer and I know why they did better times but the fact is that the vette uses brute power and low weight to win at the track, not great handling.

You will find less people here that are blinded by brand but for the most part you should expect brand loyalty in threads like these, I'm not the type but you will se it here like you will everywhere else and complaining about it wont change anything, I tired.
 


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