all i'm doing is typing on a keyboard sipping on some fuji water, ya can't get more chill than that bud.

 

I love the looks of my C4S widebody too. Just like my women, it needs a nice butt. My anaconda don't want none, if it don't got buns

 

LOL, yes the GT3 uses the C4 chassis because it has some extra structure up front to support the AWD system. However, the GT3 leaves the AWD system off because the added weight is more of a track disadvantage (not an advantage). If you want to bring "average" drivers into the discussion that's another can of worms entirely. Truthfully, I'd bet the average Joe off the street would feel more comfortable in a car like and audi TT that will push like crazy yet offer very safe handling.

However, if you give an experienced driver a choice of taking a C2 vs a C4 on a track (in the dry) I know of none that would select the AWD. To choose the AWD chassis you have to overcome over 100lbs of extra mass. This gives the car a power to weight disadvantage, a braking disadvantage, and an absolute cornering disadvantage. Plus, the awd car will put less hp to the wheels (you got extra driveline parasitic drag).

There is no question that the C4 and C4S provide safer handling and foul weather advantages but it's not a free lunch. Those advantages cost in acceleration, braking, cornering and steering feel. It's a disingenuous argument to only list the positive benefits and not the negative.

 

Ray S, please don't make this into another debate. You simple can believe what you want but you fail to mention that the 100 lbs extra weight you carry around on you mid section makes up for the weight of a C4S driven by a normal person.

 

No need to project your weight issues on me. I stay in triathlon shape year round...

 

ray come strong and show pics of you in triathlon action to really show that assumptive guy up

and i have 4% body fat who cares, awd rules.

 

tu chez

 

i forget my geometry. does a triathlon have three sides or four?

 

4%!! Damn Ben you've got me beat. I was at 4% when I ran an Ironman distance race several years ago, but I've drifted up from that low (8-10% now).

AWD rules? I don't know different strokes and all. Some guys like steel bikes, I like carbon.....

I will give you that the C4S coupe w/full aerokit is the best looking N/A 996....

 

I'm not a track guy so can't speak to that. My C2 has PSS9's and is corner balanced but is definately floaty at speed. I don't get to high speed often though and love driving the car. I'll tell you though for me the C4S is just gorgeous and I'd love to have one. The reason I got the C2 was financial. They cost less and there are more of them out there to choose from. My CPO expires the end of this year and I may change cars then.

 

I have a C2 on JIC Coilovers setup to GT3 specs. Floatiness gone plus the advantage of nimbleness in traffic and accelaration at speed.

 

AWD is perfect FOR ME. Stick your foot down and go very hard through the corners. If you want a bit of excitement take the PSM off, that way you can get some good sideways action...

Just my .02$, and I like my women slender, not too much junk in the trunk

 

Maybe not as disingenuous as saying that a C2 will handle like a C4 if you put sandbags in the front trunk.

 

Something is wrong, shouldnt be floaty at all, maybe you are too soft in the front? What are your PSS9's settings?

 

The guy who owned it prior to me had them set very soft all around. I haven't changed them yet. Next time I get it on jacks I'll change them. How do you get to the dials on the rears? I know they are on top, not bottom.