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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 10:47 PM
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Paul Toby is a scam artist, don't buy from him

I paid this a-hole for a set of JIC Cross coilovers a couple of weeks back and he still hasn't delivered.
He doesn't answer emails, phone or voicemail.

He uses these two names and email addresses:
Paul Toby, paul@jic-magic.com
Paul Jho, seonjae424@yahoo.com

Foolishly enough I assumed he worked for jic-magic but that does not seem to be the case since that email now bounces.

 
Old Jun 12, 2008 | 05:14 AM
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That sucks big time. Is he a 6-speeder? Does your payment carrier provide any relief/help? Thanks for the heads up and GL tracking him down .... google?
 
Old Jun 12, 2008 | 07:09 AM
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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 07:11 AM
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Wow sorry to hear that sucks! They should shoot this guy!
 
Old Jun 12, 2008 | 07:57 AM
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That sucks....sorry to hear.
 
Old Jun 12, 2008 | 09:22 AM
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Thanks for head up! One more scum bag.
 
Old Jun 12, 2008 | 09:37 AM
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I hope that you used paypal or a credit card. Paypal has made some great consumer protection improvements lately.
 
Old Jun 12, 2008 | 10:22 AM
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Just playin devils advocate

Have you tried communicating with someone else at the company. There are many reasons why someone might not respond, some are not because he is a *******.
 
Old Jun 12, 2008 | 10:30 AM
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Can you not just cancel the Payment? - Also, clarify which Paul you are talking about, there IS infact a Paul at JIC whom handles most of their sales. I'd hate for his name to go through the mud if he isn't actually the same guy you're dealing with. Either way good luck and I hope everything gets resolved.
 
Old Jun 12, 2008 | 10:58 AM
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www.jic-magic.com seems to be a legit business, here is the WHOIS and website info:


site contact info:
JIC USA 12217 Woodruff Ave.
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9AM - 6PM Mon-Fri
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Domain WHOIS Info:
Registrant:Make this info private Kim, Jong H 12229 Woodruff Ave. Downey, CA 90241 US
Domain Name: JIC-MAGIC.COM
Administrative Contact : Kim, Jong H jon@jic-magic.com 12229 Woodruff Ave. Downey, CA 90241 US Phone: 562-803-6122 Fax: 562-803-5012
Technical Contact : ReadyHosting.com, chris@readyhosting.com 6127 Green Bay Road Suite 400 Kenosha, WI 53142 US Phone: 262-652-7640 Fax: 262-652-7650
Record expires on 20-May-2017
Record created on 20-May-2001
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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 11:56 AM
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JIC are a bunch of cool guys over there... i have JIC on my ride.... and on my G35 as well.... haven't heard of Paul though....
 
Old Jun 12, 2008 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by iJeremy
Can you not just cancel the Payment? - Also, clarify which Paul you are talking about, there IS infact a Paul at JIC whom handles most of their sales. I'd hate for his name to go through the mud if he isn't actually the same guy you're dealing with. Either way good luck and I hope everything gets resolved.
It's the same guy which is why there was trust.
 
Old Jun 12, 2008 | 12:46 PM
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hmmmmmmm I hope you are right otherwise he sure is gonna be pissed. Sounds like more research is in order here.
 
Old Jun 12, 2008 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by YoopsRacing
hmmmmmmm I hope you are right otherwise he sure is gonna be pissed. Sounds like more research is in order here.
Yep, I have the PM and email trail to back it up.
 


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