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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 02:43 PM
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I think you are mixing me up wtih someone else. Turbo's would be out unless I wished to drop the compression of the engine. Mine uses a standard Vortec V2 SC which can be used safley and with FVD doing the tuning via a WIFI connection to the net, there tuners are in germany and can create a fuel MAP to whatever I wish to put in the car. My engine did fail but it was due to a IMS failure and am now breaking in the new engine before continuing the tune.
Why do you believe lower compression ratios would be required for a turbo than for a SC?
 
Old Jun 26, 2008 | 02:48 PM
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As for Mother, I am pretty sure he didn't try to turbo 1st and blow a motor as a result. His motor did die shortly after he got the SC running but it was a typical IMS failure (or similar didn't search to confirm).

AFAIK no one on this thread is talking about a DIY turbo install... DIY SC yes.
Good memory pjalexandre: You are right and the Turbo's would have been cost prohibitive and my GULF V1 Blew because of the IMS failure.
 
Old Jun 26, 2008 | 02:51 PM
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Why do you believe lower compression ratios would be required for a turbo than for a SC?
It's not that you can't run higher ratio's I just would not feel comfortable running 1 plus bar at 11.3 compression. I think the Turbo engine is better suited for these pressures.
 
Old Jun 26, 2008 | 02:55 PM
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I agree. Personally I'm a little wary of running any forced induction (let alone 1 bar) at these kinds of compression ratios. It just sounded like you felt a supercharger somehow gave you a benefit over a turbo in terms of dynamic compression ratio. For the same temperature, 1 bar is 1 bar regardless of how you compress it (sc or turbo) so neither has an advantage with regards to running on engines of particular static compression ratios.
 
Old Jun 26, 2008 | 03:04 PM
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I agree with your concerns and if it was not for the fact that they have been running the Vortec SC for years with little problems I would have choose differently or not at all.
 
Old Jun 26, 2008 | 08:58 PM
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Mother,

I followed your build real close. Like a stalker even. LOL

Question about your V2. Where did you get the mount for it and what pulley size did you settle on?


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Good memory pjalexandre: You are right and the Turbo's would have been cost prohibitive and my GULF V1 Blew because of the IMS failure.
 
Old Jun 26, 2008 | 09:23 PM
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The mount is built by Vortec and is a modified 1998 Ford Cobra mount with a 3.33" pulley size. And I just love ebay.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 03:15 AM
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The GSR makes a great track car... If only one could flip the drive train around easily, it would be even more fun.

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Parts, I picked up a Vortech full kit with aftercooler, fuel pump, fuel management unit, all hoses, etc. $1150, it's for a B series Honda. I'm building a Integra GS-R for the track (easy to work on, cheap parts, and you can beat the hell out of them). Honestly I might look into piecing something together for the Porsche. Hoses are cheap, custom charge pipes are cheap, and I could get all the parts at autozone. I just would need to find sometype of engine management and someone who knew how to tune Porshce's. I already have the 3rd radiator kit.
 
Old Jun 27, 2008 | 06:29 AM
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The GSR makes a great track car... If only one could flip the drive train around easily, it would be even more fun.
Yeah it's one of the best handling front wheel drive cars, but front wheel drive has so many limitations. I just like the idea because they are cheap, easy to work on, you can beat the heck of them, and you can find parts everywhere dirt-cheap for them. So my plan is to use that heavily at the track and in a few years when I have a little more money, transition the 911 out there. I'll still get the 911 out there every now and again.
 
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