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Old Mar 8, 2009 | 08:32 PM
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996 lap time for V.I.R.?

Does anyone know the lap time for a stock 3.4 or 3.6 996 at Virginia Int'l Raceway? I realize this can vary by driver and conditions. But there must be a commonly accepted time for this car. I'm interested in a comparison to more current cars. And VIR seems to have a lot of lap time data out there for various makes and models. Thanks.

i.e.

Most of the cars were driven by Car and Driver Magazine test drivers.

There is obviously a margin for error since the cars were not all tested on the same day and of course there is more to a great car than lap times.


1. Mosler MT 900 GTR 2:45.9
2. Dodge Viper SRT-10 ACR 2:48.6
3. Ferrari F430 Scuderia 2:54.6
4. Nissan GT-R 2:55.6
5. Dodge Viper STR-10 (600hp) 2:57.4
6. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 2:58.2
7. Ford GT 3:00.7
8. Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z51 3:01.2
9. Dodge Viper SRT-10 3:01.6
10. Porsche 997 GT3 3:01.8
11. Chevrolet Corvette C6 3:03.6
12. Cadillac CTS-V 3:04.0
13. Audi R8 3:04.6
14. BMW M3 (E92) 3:05.6
15. Porsche 997 Turbo 3:05.8
16. Ford Shelby GT500 3:05.9
17. Mercedes C 63 AMG 3:06.5
18. Lotus Elise S2 3:09.2
19. Porsche Cayman S 3:09.5
20. BMW M6 3:10.0
21. BMW 335i Coupe 3:10.5
22. Audi RS4 (B7) 3:11.2
23. BMW Z4 M Roadster 3:11.7
24. Nissan 350Z (283bhp) 3:12.5
25. Chevrolet Cobalt SS/TC 3:13.0
26. Mitsubishi EVO X MR 3:13.3
27. Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX 3:13.5
28. BMW 135i Coupe (E82) 3:13.7
29. Lexus IS F 3:14.0
30. Audi S5 3:14.6
31. Honda S2000 Type S 3:15.0
32. Mazda 3 MPS 3:16.0
33. Dodge Challenger SRT-8 3:16.3
34. Lotus Elise SC 3:16.6
35. Infiniti G37 Coupe 3:17.5
36. Dodge Charger SRT-8 3:18.2
37. Mazda RX-8 3:19.0
38. Subaru Impreza WRX STI (2.5l) 3:19.0
39. Chevrolet Cobalt SS 3:20.6
40. Dodge Caliber SRT4 3:20.8
41. Ford Mustang GT 3:20.9
42. VW Golf R32 3:21.8
43. Mini Cooper S (Mk II) 3:22.9
44. Honda Civic Mugen Si 3:24.8
45. VW Golf GTI Mk V 3:25.1
46. Honda Civic SI 3:26.5
47. Volvo C30 T5 3:26.6
48. Mazda MX-5 2.0 MZR 3:29.3
 
Old Mar 9, 2009 | 11:30 AM
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.Notice here on this link and see the back straight , High HP cars would love this track all day long.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgini...tional_Raceway

another great link
http://www.trackpedia.com/wiki/Virgi...tional_Raceway
 
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 09:34 AM
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A C6 with a Z51 package that sells for $30K used is in the Top 10 and beats the 997TT and GT3. I always buy the wrong cars....
 
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Lutz has a long way to go before his vette outclassees a Porsche. I drove a 2007 bone stock Z06 at road america last summer in one of the Milwaukee DE's and had no problem running with a 996 turbo S. Granted, the turbo S investment may have played a role in the other guy's throttle input. Not that we were racing or anything. And when the brakes go, it's Chevy parts, not Por$che. The car has been bulletproof over several DE's.

the purpose of my original question is out of curiosity regarding how the Cobalt SS would keep up with a 996 C2. after seeing my friend's Mazdaspeed3 embarass Boster S's at BIR. pedigree means less on the track if the car is fast. and there's a strange pleasure in seeing a child seat equipped hatchback out pace a germanic tool of speed.
 

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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 12:05 PM
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WOW, the ACR is 9 seconds faster than a stock Viper. Aero goes a long way on one lap.
 
Old Mar 11, 2009 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by waydeki
Lutz has a long way to go before his vette outclassees a Porsche. I drove a 2007 bone stock Z06 at road america last summer in one of the Milwaukee DE's and had no problem running with a 996 turbo S. Granted, the turbo S investment may have played a role in the other guy's throttle input. Not that we were racing or anything. And when the brakes go, it's Chevy parts, not Por$che. The car has been bulletproof over several DE's.

the purpose of my original question is out of curiosity regarding how the Cobalt SS would keep up with a 996 C2. after seeing my friend's Mazdaspeed3 embarass Boster S's at BIR. pedigree means less on the track if the car is fast. and there's a strange pleasure in seeing a child seat equipped hatchback out pace a germanic tool of speed.
DE Comparisons of cars are exactly what they are. Not a comparison of car vs car ability but more a testament to driver ability and/or car setup. As fun as david vs goliath situations are (especially when your David), at the end of the day, you where faster than that other driver. I have had many times at the track where I was able to outpace other cars in my lowly 323is with 150 whp (330CI, M coupes, M3s etc...). This is due to experience level and car setup. Too many factors to consider to say a colbalt or whatever is as fast/faster than car x. Just as a starting point, tire choice for each car, suspension settings etc... A car with R comps will destroy the same car on streets.

Perfect case in point is a buddy of mine who's an instructor could pretty much make up 200hp deficits in his car (with stock suspension) and fly by M3's. Expereince on track makes up for a huge amount on track.

Not taking away from a vette as it's easily driven faster than a 911 and it's a fantastic car with great performance for dollar factor.
 
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Yea... I was driving a 87 944S with wicked oil consumption issues so i only had like 150 hp and i flew past gt3 rsr's and everybody in this DE at Blackhawk Farms Raceway the two times iv been there im 18 and im pretty much out of DE and into the clubracing status just need hours... but at road america i turned out a 2:51.44 and not above 3 minutes anymore because of traffic. I would have placed 3rd in my class if i entered my sprint race that weekend :|
 
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