I've got a bridge for sale for all of you guys with extra money laying around!

 

And if you don't like Nick's bridge I have one for sale too.....

 

I hope that this post is a joke...

If not, I've got an even better bridge than the other two guys above for sale! In fact, I'll give you a two for one deal!!!

 

I saw and heard the suncoast headers at their last meet. I think they were still in the developmental stage. The quality looked great, but they were insanely loud. I don't remember which mufflers the guy had with them.

I wouldn't spend the money on headers. I don't think you'll feel 10hp on a 300hp car. Just like the chips on the NA cars, I'm sure everyone wants to believe they can tell the diff so they don't feel so bad about dumping that kind of cash 0-60 times are improved by only less than a second with a supercharger kit, how much of a diff could be noticed with 10HP?

 

Agreed, that's a great way to put it. That's why I haven't really considered going the headers route...

However, if someone doesn't mind throwing down that kind of money, is truly able to feel that increase in HP and feels it's worth it then all power to them....

 

Morning,

 

in escense i can see where many would agree with deputy's statement. 10hp really wont compare, it is a small ration to the 300hp. However, take a n/a 996, now upgrade the headers, upgrade to a higher flow cat, increase to a sport or fabspeed, or billy boat exhaust...
now that the exit path is done, increase air flow with a cold air pipe, now take your ecu and modify the maps and balance the fuel curve...
with all of this accomplished, you now have taken a nice 300hp porsche and turned it into a beast. I believe you could feel those modifications.

To clarify what deputy mentioned "The quality looked great, but they were insanely loud. I don't remember which mufflers the guy had with them."

That 996 has a porsche sport full exhaust system with our headers.

 

I am very happy with my modified set-up. I am running the latest EVO intake, GIAC ECU flash, Fabspeed Headers, and PSE. Sorry guys, but the difference is VERY noticeable.

I started the mod path with JUST headers (picked up used for $400) and PSE. The gains were decent... mainly at the high end of the band. I might have a hard time paying $1300 for this type of gain... at $400, it was worth it.

The combination of the mods have made the car MUCH more responsive than stock... I am pleased with the results from a $2000 investment... At something like $4000-5000, I'd have to lean towards an SC, or trade to a turbo...

 

so how much lbs ft torque do these un godly expesive headers add?? also to inprove the air flow you would need to through in a nice intake manifold and atleast some ported heads to get a "beast" of a N\A car. full entry and exit, cai wont cut it for the entry point of the air lol

 

this is true, manifolds and valve porting, and polished inlets, etc... On a honda a header alone would be an upgrade, however, a porsche motor carries more responsibility than a 1.6L motor. In good spirits ...

I agree with everyone, and vice-versa... on a Porsche, headers are only a small portion of the upgrade package. (i.e. cajun spice in a pot of jumbalia)

Our headers are made by our own engineers. We have direct contact through out the R&D, sales, & installation process.
$1295. for a set 996 n/a ... granted the sound on our own porsche may or may not meet the db regulations yet there exhist multiple muffler applications to meet needs.

As for the torque, i believe there should be a torque curve on those graphs on page 1. We made multiple runs on the dyno to adjust the fuel. We saw anywhere from 8 - 13 ftlbs.
we have one more apointment next week, and i can give you final torque numbers.

Our business is very open, being this is our thread for headers, we do specialize in all forms of performance.
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for those of you who might be relatively local, July 10th we are having a large event on our grounds, up to 200 cars and 350 registered customers,, our event is free, and there will be plenty of events, there is a link on our website on the right hand side.

 

"We made multiple runs on the dyno to adjust the fuel."

Do you suggest an ECU tweek with these hedders?

 

hey suncoast,

can you tell me what gear you did these runs with? with my dyno results there is a 10 HP difference between 3rd gear and 4th gear runs.

thx

 

peter,

my friendly advice to you is to talk to those who have actually done this mod. you really gotta talk to those in the "know" not bench racers/tuners.

don't go by what people have "heard" not have "done".

you've seen my results. i initially was not given all the data from my dyno runs. i initially had 277RWHP but actually the best run was 281 RWHP. of course, this is with ALL my mods.

if you have a bead on a set of headers than go for it but don't spend the extra bucks on a pricey set. pm me if you want to know where i got the deal on my fabspeeds.

for the biggest seat of the pants difference, do everything at once instead of piecemeal.

if the ONLY thing you are doing are the headers then don't.

 

The Porsche sport mufflers offer no increase in power. They're for sound only...

I have heard of zero cases of cats increasing the power in the NA 996.

How much power do you think you'll get with all of the mods you've listed?

 

Are your turbos made in house or sent out, and what material are they made from. Have you had any problems with heat on the bare headers or do you suggest cermaic coating them>?