Hello all, I am an infrequent poster but frequent visitor. I am considering mods to my 04 C4S such as chip, intake and exhaust. Will these mods void my warranty?

 

Well, a chip probably will not net any gains. Intake and exhaust should not void anything. I would research these mods greatly. It has never been proven that these mods which will cost thousands will net you gains. You may get 3-15 HP depending on which brands you use, but you may lose HP in the lower RPM range...Exhaust is usually done purely for the sound....If you are concerned about warranty, get the exhaust. The intake and chip probably are not worth it in my opinion.

 

Intake and chip are probably a waste of time and at least the chip will void your warranty. The exhaust will add a couple of ponies, I like GHL, waaaaaay cheaper than PSE and PSE adds zero hp.

 

Hmm actually I beg to differ With an intake and flash you do get some power... 18rwhp... The exhaust is more for sound but will get you maybe 6 or so....

The intake will void your warranty on things like a MAF (a 250 dollar part) and the flash can always be put back to stock for free and such....

 

Do you mean that the MAF will malfunction with the install of an intake?

 

No the MAF will not malfunction with the addition of an intake. However, as Sharky mentioned, if it were to malfunction at some point in time the dealer might not replace it under warranty. It reallly depends on the dealer and how receptive they are to aftermarket parts. Some are better than others. Marc

 

Marc is right...it is entirely dependent on the dealer. I have had no issues with getting warranty work done (including a MAF replacement), front differential, O2 sensor heater... Do the mods. Its not about the HP anyway.

 

I couldnt agree more with wross996tt, I have done three 3.6 L cars this week with evo intake, flash, headers and mufflers. Every customer was told the same thing "if you dont feel the expense is commensurate with the added performance we will take it off" Needless to say not a single customer has taken me up on the refund.

 

Ballpark costs for evo intake, flash, headers and mufflers including install? Ballpark RWHP gain with the complete package? IF it's not about the HP, what is it about? I do not care about bling.

 

This business about chips being "undetectable" or putting them back to stock when you take it in for repairs doesn't seem very kosher to me. Sorry, I just think that is not right. If anybody wants to put a chip on their car then go for it, but you also need to accept the consequeces if it screws something up. The best scenario would be if one of the "tuners" would team up with Porsche and provide approved tuning upgrades thru the dealer network.

 

Thanks Marc that's exactly what I meant The dealer has to prove that your intake caused the failure of a MAF. On NA 996s there have not been an increased rate of failures of the MAFs but I was just giving an example....

 

It's about 23rwhp with the intake and flash. Here's the info:
http://www.sharkwerks.com/products.php?pid=20 (intake)

Flash:
http://www.sharkwerks.com/products.php?pid=18

 

Hi doug I understand what you're saying. The irony is that there are Genuine Porsche dealerships across the country that not only "send/recommend" us or other EVO dealers to customers but actually sign up to be official EVO dealers. On the one hand you have Porsche dealers endorsing and installing Flashes, intakes, exhausts etc.. and other parts from EVO and on the other you have dealers that void your warranty for a flipping B&M Short Shift Kit even though the Porsche one is EXACTLY the same only painted black. From my point I have been VERY lucky with dealerships in the Bay Area. Brian and Carlsen have been so darn supportive of what we do that it's likely that not many other areas have this level of support! They are very understanding and as long as everyone is honest and plays by the rules they do what they can and always have. They know people enjoy racing and playing with these cars....

 

I hear you Alex, there is a ton of variability among dealerships. If they sold you the upgrade it would be hard for them to void any warranty in my view.
Cheers

 

Absolutely! it is a strange situation indeed... The best thing I can do however is recommend the most reasonable dealership in my area to my customers and I do that. I seriously send everyone over to Brian @ Carlsen. Plus Christian (their tech) rebuilt my motor- he's awesome. He builds motors with Jerry Woods so he knows his stuff....