This project could be interesting to follow:
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...518#post474518

 

you've been advertising these as being available for the 996 for some time now.

 

RUF's site says plus 80 HP for the 996. My kit bumped my car up approx 147 HP with the headers and stock cats. I have no idea what my performance figures are as I have no scientific way of measuring them. Just my dyno runs. EVO just did some quarter miles runs with their blown 997 and 997S and came up with 11.8's and 11.7's respecitively. They footnoted that this was the first time the 997 and the driver had been to the track.

The problem with having a tech flow out is that it's not just as simple as driving by your regular installer to having something looked at. It takes quite a bit more arrangement. Let's face it, no matter how good the kit is, little things go awry like a leaky boost hose, CEL's, etc.... My EVO dealer is my local Porsche dealer. I get great service and they're a short drive from the house. Due to the complexity of RUF's kit, it looks like it would be quite a bit more involved if one of the kits' parts should fail. Can the compressor and intercoolers be removed and replaced without dropping the engine?

You're right. Having the warranty isn't bad. But you can keep that warranty for an extra 8 grand. Being that I can get a whole new 3.6 installed for close to that, I'll take my chances and see if I actually need it (knock on wood ).

In reality you should really have driven this car before singing it's praises online here. I know riding in one can get you a pretty good idea regarding performance as that's what I did when I was shopping for a supercharger , but if you want people to fork out almost double what EVO charges, I'd get some seat time first.

You're right. You can have a tuned car or a RUF conversion. Kind of like you can have a Rolex or Timex. They both work tell time. One just costs more I'm not trying to give you a hard time. I love the TT RUF conversions. Wonderful cars. With an unlimited budget I would certainly own one. I just don't think this particular RUF application will be competitive in the marketplace. Especially for people choosing to order a brand new RUF converted 997. You'd be pushing close to a base TT in pricing at that point.

 

It may not be your cup of tea. So you really could leave it at that.

The amount of engineering, time, and pure passion that went into creating this kit are , IMHO, worth the extra"$8,000".

No, you cannot remove the actual supercharger without dropping the motor. And the charge coolers are built into the intake manifolds, so the motor must come out for the removal of those.

But that is not the customers problem. Should a problem arise, all you have to do is tell us when you want us to come fix it. We will take care of all the logistics.

That is, if it breaks. Which we all know that Ruf modified cars have a bad habit of doing.

 

how about you leave out the sport cats as that can save about 2K, right?

if a tech is flown out at the drop of a hat then that is quite impressive but if it wakes a few days to a week then it does become a headache.

 

I haven't been advertising anything, but I did get a lot of laps with H-P Lieb around Hockenheim in RUF's test car this summer which I reported here: https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ruf+hockenheim

"RUF has just brought a compressor kit for the 996 and 997 Carrera to the market.
Increasing the performance with about 60 hp this gives close to Turbo-performance in a Carrera. One of RUF’s test drivers, a.k.a. Mr. Böse (Mr. Angry after his driving technique…),
offers me a product demonstration in a 996 C2 Compressor. After a couple of laps (actually after the first turn) around Hockenheim Ring it is clear that this man know how to drive a Porsche! Had I not know better, my guess would be that he’s trying to destroy the car. But everything holds together, and we pass lap after lap in warp speed. Mr. Angry likes to drive wide, and I sure don’t mind. This is entertainment on a high level and it’s a delight to see this man control the car! A new dimension opens. In one of the bends we drift like h*ll and I think “he lost it,� but a frantic use of the steering wheel and the gas pedal combined with laughter apparently saves us (I still can’t understand how he did it)
The RUF C2 is completely stock except for a lowering kit and the compressor.
The acceleration to 200 km/h is in the 15 second range (3.4l). Obviously an interesting investment for any Carrera owners how wants that extra. Why not surprise a 996 Turbo owner at the next track event?"


Here is the 996 C2



I don't know when the kit was released in Europe, but perhaps this autumn? And in the USA the first car is being done right now.

But I agree, probably not a lot of people will order this kit.
Many people get the Carrera because they don't like super/turbocharged engines.

I think it's cool stuff you can order a RUF R Kompressor, with RUF VIN.

 

people compare HP but unless you compete top speed, HP doesn't mean much. It's the area under the torque curve that matter for driving purpose. European Car mag did a test comparing VW R32s. Turbo, SC and tuned NA. Turbo is the HP winner but NA came out on top in every performance category. Yes, you have the right to brag about your HP gain. But P-cars are about driving. If you read mags starting in the 80's, RUF has never been HP winners but all ways performance winners.

 

The RUF SC makes all the other aftermarket kits look like, well aftermarket kits. Guys I'm really tempted to pull the trigger on one of these. Somebody stop me

 

i'm not gonna stop you. do it!!! i'd love to see one of our members get one and report back. it be interesting to see it dyno'd.

just make sure you get the clear engine lid option so you can be reminded why you spent double the money

 

 

thought you were getting a 997?

you are absolutely right about it being oem fit.

i love my EVO kit but the fit is not so 100%. the engine lid hits the SC, the plumbing makes for a very tight engine bay and, most of all, the intake is now sucking hot air from within the engine bay. yes it is intercooled but it can always be better. i am thining up of new ways to reroute the intake.

the EVO is not a perfect system but, compared to the Ruf, you CAN'T beat the price.

having the clutch actuated SC is nice so you don't have to hear it at idle.

please pull the trigger so we can get some real stateside numbers.

 

The simple fact that you'd want the spare motor speaks for itself. With the RUF kit there's no need for a spare motor for two reasons:
1. It's better engineered than any other SC kit out there (no offense to EVO or TPC, but we're talking about RUF!).
2. The RUF kit comes with a warranty.

Why do you say other kits perform better? RUF is notorious for understating their numbers and I'm sure their kit produces numbers at least equal to the TPC or EVO units.

 

i'm amazed at how some of you blindly sing the praises of this product. none of you have seen or driven one. Ruf's reputation proceeds itself, but why not see wait till we see some actually installed here.

with regards to performance, RUF advertises plus 80 HP on a 996. the evo bumps it up 120. that would be some serious sandbagging on RUF's part.

i'm sure the RUF is a wonderful kit. they build some outstanding cars. i just can't see it being sucessful at this price point and the lack of local dealers/technicians. it's just too much money for a moderate power increase. like i said before, why would a new 997s owner add $20K to the price tag instead of buying a TT? basically, the EVO kit is about half the price of the RUF kit. If my motor doesn't blow up in two years (knock on wodd ), I just saved a pile of money. And even if it does, which I doubt it will, I'll break even...

so teflon, can you tell me why the RUF kit is better than the EVO kit? what part of the EVO kit is poorly done and will be more damaging to the engine than the RUF kit? they both put extra load on the motors. they're both intercooled and use centrifugal style blowers. my air fuel ratios are almost identical to stock.

 

carlos:

i wouldn't bother with rerouting the intake. the intake temps are surprisingly low. i don't remember what the numbers were, but i was shocked at how low it is with relation to where the intake is located. it wasn't too much higher than outside ambient. i'm curious as to why RUF went through the trouble to put the intercoolers where they did?

does the supercharger whine at idle really bother you? i can barely hear mine. although i've heard the tpc blower too, so anything will sound quiet compared to that torque beast

i'm not really concerned about the engine compartment being cramped. who's doing work in there anyway? cleanging the filter might be a pain, but that's a twice a year project. RUF's filter location is definately more convenient.

the one thing that i thought was a little so so with the evo kit is the mounting of the intercooler coolant pump and hose routing. the angle of the pump forces the hose to dip down and inch below the bottom of the car. doesn't give me the warm fuzzies. supposedly my installer has a fix for that and will be taken care of the next time i'm in there.

the one thing that really impressed me most about the EVO kit is the programming. i have a zeitronix wideband AF/boost/TPS/Lamda meter installed. i've been datalogging AF ratios vs boost and TPS on the street and on the dyno. i'm amazed at what a great job evo did maintaining proper AF ratios at idle and wide open throttle. i'm sure RUF's programming will be just as good.

 

DOG: No hoses should be hanging below the car. Sounds like an installer issue, not an EVO design problem.