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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 09:03 AM
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I have the JIC Cross suspension, the fully adjustable variant. What do I think, well I think you need to step back and honestly assess what you are going to do with your car. If you are just going to drive around Florida enjoying the sun, then I wold not go with the JIC or these fully adjustable systems. The JIC is great on the track, I cannot believe the difference it make, and that's before I even started messing with the settings. However, there is payback, and that is on city roads. On the softest settings and with the softest spring setttings, the car is rough on some city streets. Now Fl roads are pretty flat and pot hole free, so you might be ok. But up here in the north, it's rough, and it keeps me from using the car at certain times.

You might also want to consider two other issues, first the fact that you have a Cab and the second that you have a SC. I do believe that Porsche does not recommend aftermarket suspension on the cab, as the reduced frame strenth from the cab and the weight on the rear end can cause issued when you load up the rear suspension. Second, the cab plus the extra weight of the SC will also cause issues. I would say, get the turbo variant, but they will not fit in the C2. Either way, I don't think the PS9's will handle the cab and the SC very well. Just something to consider.
 
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i talked to Carl over at Leda. They offer some pretty neat stuff. It's all custom built to each application. I may go that direction as it's completely custom sprung with 24 way adjustability and around the same price as the bilsteins.
 
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I have the Pss9's on my C4 Cab.....NO problems at all..I LOVE it.....I would not hesitate to get them.....
 
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I have a C4 Cab with the JIC 15 way adjustable suspension. No bottoming out, no fitment issues. Like the PSS9s, they dramatically improve handling and the whole driving experience. And, while the ride is certainly harsher than stock, I seldom feel it unless there are potholes or irregularities in the road. You can easily adjust them for track use, and if ride comfort is an issue, you can order the softest springs from JIC.

Also, FWIW, I had one of my drop links break because of some nasty potholes, and JIC covered the part under warranty. Just buy them through one of their dealers. That's something you'll need to keep in mind if you chose the D2s or Leda.

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D2's are definatley out. the only online discussion i could find about them was in a honda forum and it wasn't pretty. that had to stop a group buy right in the middle due to strange noises from the suspension. i'm all set with that bull****.

I spent a lot of time on the phone with Carl from Racer's Edge. The Leda really sounds like an interesting product with a lot of racing background. From what I can tell so far, the customer service sounds on par with Bilstein or JIC. I just hate being the first one to try them
 
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D2's are definatley out. the only online discussion i could find about them was in a honda forum and it wasn't pretty. that had to stop a group buy right in the middle due to strange noises from the suspension. i'm all set with that bull****.

I spent a lot of time on the phone with Carl from Racer's Edge. The Leda really sounds like an interesting product with a lot of racing background. From what I can tell so far, the customer service sounds on par with Bilstein or JIC. I just hate being the first one to try them
You are not the 1st one to try them. You are just the first person on 6speed to try them on a 996. I have nothing but good things to say about Karl, Leda and Racers Edge. I spoke with him today about doing their "sport" coilover for the 993. They work great on my 944s2, I am just a happy return customer.
 
Old Jan 3, 2006 | 09:01 PM
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i have aftermarket wheels on my car (cargraphic 19's). i have no idea what the offsets are. i did a search and read some posts about suspension components rubbing on the wheels when upgrading to coilovers. is this something i should be concerned with?
 
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Originally posted by deputydog95
i'm not a track star by any means. mostly some hard street driving and maybe a DE event or two in the future. i really want to try sebring out as it's not too far from the house.

i can't have the ride too rough either as the wife drives the car too. so essentially i need something adjustable, not too race oriented (harsh ride on the street), with no quirks.
what would you recommend?

i don't know why, but i'm kind of drawn to that D2 suspension. I do like the idea that they have a north american division here in CA and that they have a racing division as well.

it's a shame ground control doesn't do anything with porsche. i had their coilovers in my 330 and they were fantastic.
The fact that you mention the wife and street stuff... I'm shying away from JICs or the D2s... They have solid pillow ball mounts and camber plates That's cool but it'll make noise and be stiffer for sure.... You're dead right about Ground Control...
 
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Originally posted by C4S ESQ
Ive heard, and do not know if this has any merit, that sometimes PSS9s have issues with banging due to lack of travel when lowered???

Im also looking for a new setup for my C4S. I track my car at every DE I can and use it 2 or 3 days a week.
I would, and did, go with the X73, perfect at the track. Be very careful with pss9's on a lowered C4S/TT platform, you will get severe bump steer under hard cornering unless it's really set up well. Ken had a nice post about this awhile back.
Dog, just do the RoW 030, very hard to beat the factory.
 
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the row isn't low enough for me. my car is 40mm lower than stock right now and it looks perfect for my taste. if it had the lower ride height, that would be a no brainer.

sharky, what are your feelings about the Leda product?

also, here are my wheel sizes and offets:

8.5x19 ET40
10.5x19 ET 52

will this cause any rubbing issues?


is the pss9 bump steer just an issue with the widebody platforms? ive got a just a regular c2 cab. everyone else seems to like them.
 
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i called bilstein this morning and asked about my cab application. he said they were not designed for the cab, but that they could be used in the cab. although he suspects the ride will be different from the coupe due the extra weight and lack of rigidity.

he did tell me that the max recommended lowering is 35mm in the front and 25mm in the back, and that they DO NOT recommend altering the factory bump stops.

that's not much of drop for a ride height adjustable setup. is this all you guys are running for a drop?

anybody got an answer on my wheel offset and fitment of a coilover setup?
 
Old Jan 4, 2006 | 09:26 AM
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I'm not sure how many mm's lower mine is than stock, but it is at the limits for keeping rear camber at a point that it won't overly wear my tires. The PSS9's perform great (ride quality). In my case they are a huge inprovement over the stock set up that had 60k miles on 'em. I do plain to get either H&R or GT3 antisway bars to complete the package though. Hoping that helps the front hook up better. It seams to push the front (understeer?)
 
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Originally posted by deputydog95
i called bilstein this morning and asked about my cab application. he said they were not designed for the cab, but that they could be used in the cab. although he suspects the ride will be different from the coupe due the extra weight and lack of rigidity.

he did tell me that the max recommended lowering is 35mm in the front and 25mm in the back, and that they DO NOT recommend altering the factory bump stops.

that's not much of drop for a ride height adjustable setup. is this all you guys are running for a drop?

anybody got an answer on my wheel offset and fitment of a coilover setup?
Thats funny, I called Bilstein and got the OPPOSITE info...They said the Cab was not an issue and didnt say anything about the lowering height....I am not sure where my car is, but I would not go too much lower and I do NOT hit the bump stops, I dont think I ever have. You will not rub, there are PLENTY of people with 19's and coilovers. Here is a pic of my car, not sure if it helps, it does have 18's though....

 


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