Help compare a 2000 Carrera 4 to a carrera-- And what should I look for?
#1
Help compare a 2000 Carrera 4 to a carrera-- And what should I look for?
Currently sporting an 06 CTT-S and I LOVE IT! Oh Man is it fast and fun and great at some many things. I need an in town type of car. Currently using a mazda mx-5. Was going to sell that and buy a 996 cab.
Of course the IMS issues has me concerned but I also realize that it doesn't happen to all of them, heard only like 5%. So what can I look for in a car to see if that is going bad?
What do you like about the carrera 4 vs the carrera? Or vice verse? My purchase price will have to be less than 20k so that should tell you approximately what market I am in.
Got any good advice?
Of course the IMS issues has me concerned but I also realize that it doesn't happen to all of them, heard only like 5%. So what can I look for in a car to see if that is going bad?
What do you like about the carrera 4 vs the carrera? Or vice verse? My purchase price will have to be less than 20k so that should tell you approximately what market I am in.
Got any good advice?
#2
unfortunately you usually don't know your IMS is bad until well, it goes bad. best advice is to look for a car w/it already taken care of (more than you think) and many will sport an LN sticker with a barcode & number telling you it's been done.
don't know anything about the c4s other than they're a bit heavier, less frunk space, and some ppl actually don't prefer the way it drives.
do your research (suggest rennlist for that), watch youtube videos on the car (you'd be surprised how many there are discussing various aspects of buying/owning/maintaning).
goodluck.
don't know anything about the c4s other than they're a bit heavier, less frunk space, and some ppl actually don't prefer the way it drives.
do your research (suggest rennlist for that), watch youtube videos on the car (you'd be surprised how many there are discussing various aspects of buying/owning/maintaning).
goodluck.
#3
This is easy.
The IMS thing is not 'checkable'. If you feel that it will fail you have to fix it for $2000-$5000. For me, I'm not going to touch it unless I have to open up the tranny for service (new clutch) as the tranny has to come off to install a new IMS. Porsche recently came out with an updated IMS, that is what I would go with if I was to do it. 2-5% of cars has this fail. Typically it's higher mileage cars.
The C4 and C2 are the same minus suspension and AWD, thats it. Do you need to drive in the snow? Worried about the rain? Otherwise stick to the C2.
The IMS thing is not 'checkable'. If you feel that it will fail you have to fix it for $2000-$5000. For me, I'm not going to touch it unless I have to open up the tranny for service (new clutch) as the tranny has to come off to install a new IMS. Porsche recently came out with an updated IMS, that is what I would go with if I was to do it. 2-5% of cars has this fail. Typically it's higher mileage cars.
The C4 and C2 are the same minus suspension and AWD, thats it. Do you need to drive in the snow? Worried about the rain? Otherwise stick to the C2.
#4
Imsb is well covered, either don’t stress it and roll the dice or address it and don’t stress. Case closed.
the ONLY way to compare the C2 and C4 is for you to go drive both. They are different animals. Personally I prefer the C2 for its live rear end, it’s the more quintessential 911 experience. I wouldn’t know that unless I spent time in both. Just go drive em both and decide what works best for you.
the ONLY way to compare the C2 and C4 is for you to go drive both. They are different animals. Personally I prefer the C2 for its live rear end, it’s the more quintessential 911 experience. I wouldn’t know that unless I spent time in both. Just go drive em both and decide what works best for you.
#5
I am currently on the market for a 996.2 4s, this will be my first Porsche coming from American muscle cars. I started looking into a C2 but after seeing a 4s I just love the way the car looks. I haven't driven one, but I will adjust to the car. Besides one can alway remove the front differential and turn it into a rear pusher.
#6
Currently sporting an 06 CTT-S and I LOVE IT! Oh Man is it fast and fun and great at some many things. I need an in town type of car. Currently using a mazda mx-5. Was going to sell that and buy a 996 cab.
Of course the IMS issues has me concerned but I also realize that it doesn't happen to all of them, heard only like 5%. So what can I look for in a car to see if that is going bad?
What do you like about the carrera 4 vs the carrera? Or vice verse? My purchase price will have to be less than 20k so that should tell you approximately what market I am in.
Got any good advice?
Of course the IMS issues has me concerned but I also realize that it doesn't happen to all of them, heard only like 5%. So what can I look for in a car to see if that is going bad?
What do you like about the carrera 4 vs the carrera? Or vice verse? My purchase price will have to be less than 20k so that should tell you approximately what market I am in.
Got any good advice?
One more thing...there are different products to use when replacing the ims...they are not all equal. There is plenty of information available...but hope this helps.
#7
The best advice that I could give is do your homework, keep emotions out of the purchase, and get a PPI on the car. C4 vs. C2 is all about your preference in driving performance. IMHO, most seek out RWD with manual. I've driven both and have owned two RWD 996. AWD is great, but there is something special about these RWD vehicles.
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#8
I'm curious as to which is faster in a drag race. The C2 or the C4? And if I have to change the IMS guessing it would be easier on a c2? I appreciate all the help. Crazy as it sounds I now have to choose between a 2000 C4 with 120k for 13k or a 2003 C2 with 91k for 16k. Both are in excellent cond, neither knows if the IMS has been changed. At least they are both 6 speeds.
#9
I'm curious as to which is faster in a drag race. The C2 or the C4? And if I have to change the IMS guessing it would be easier on a c2? I appreciate all the help. Crazy as it sounds I now have to choose between a 2000 C4 with 120k for 13k or a 2003 C2 with 91k for 16k. Both are in excellent cond, neither knows if the IMS has been changed. At least they are both 6 speeds.
Check this out...
https://www.zeroto60times.com/vehicl...-60-mph-times/
And yes, changing out an IMS of a C4 is lot more labor intensive when removing the tranny.
#10
Buy the newest car you can afford as the 2003 has some updates the 2000 does not have like a glove box for one. If the IMS/RMS has not blown up by now you are probably good along with there was a change in the IMS bearing in 2001. But when the time comes for a clutch do the RMS/IMS as I will be doing soon to my 2001 C4. Oh and get a PPI.
#11
Buy the newest car you can afford as the 2003 has some updates the 2000 does not have like a glove box for one. If the IMS/RMS has not blown up by now you are probably good along with there was a change in the IMS bearing in 2001. But when the time comes for a clutch do the RMS/IMS as I will be doing soon to my 2001 C4. Oh and get a PPI.
The IMS didn't improve until 2006 with the larger single row... and of course was pretty much solved with complete engine redesign in 2009.
#12
There are a lot of modest "improvements" on the Mk2 996. That is, turbo style front lights, front and rear bumper skins, better aerodynamics, digital radios (e.g. PCM2), but one of the biggest is the engines went from a Varicam 3.4L to Varicam Plus 3.6L. Unfortunately, one of the downsides is Porsche stuck with a single row IMS bearing. (((sad trombone))) Wak Waaak WAaaaAaaaaK!!!!
The IMS didn't improve until 2006 with the larger single row... and of course was pretty much solved with complete engine redesign in 2009.
The IMS didn't improve until 2006 with the larger single row... and of course was pretty much solved with complete engine redesign in 2009.
#13
Yea, the C4S does have the sexiest look of all 996 cars IMHO with it's turbo wide body and the iconic center reflector strip, but why do you think it's far better than a Carrera RWD "C2"?
#14
Suspension, big red brakes, wider tires and rims and the upgrades you get in the 4S package.
#15
I had a 996 C2 Cab for 7 years, loved it. I didn't have any IMS issues, but did have a coolant/oil intermix cracked head problem. With help I got a new motor goodwilled from PNA even though the car was out of warranty. Now, I've had a '6 TT Cab since '10 and it's nice as well. From day one with the TT, I missed the C2 nimble steering and typical 911 handling of the rear weighted bias car. A few years ago I removed the front diff, shaft and front axles converting it to RWD like a GT2. Best car ever now, not because the turbos, as I'd be just as happy with a GT3 motor in a Cab. I like the bulletproof Mezger motor, RWD and a Cab. If you truly appreciate being involved in the driving process, I'd say RWD is the most rewarding.
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