Maintaining 911? Typical costs...
HUH? my '99 996 is frequently tracked. at least 2 days/month. no problems. these cars were meant to go on the track. you don't need a team to support you. you haven't driven a porsche until you drive it on the track. you are being overly cautious "nothing ventured, nothing gained"
my car has ~88000 miles, 6000 of those miles are hard track miles, oh ya, and performed flawlessly as a daily driver
my car has ~88000 miles, 6000 of those miles are hard track miles, oh ya, and performed flawlessly as a daily driver

Originally Posted by zdr2k
an additional note.
The 996 i have has never tracked. I don't track it as I don't have a race team to maintain it afterwards (not enough $$).
IMHO, sportscars are high performance machines and not race cars. You just can't track a car over the weekend and expect it to perform flawlessly as a daily driver during the week. Maybe some reliability issues (i mean mechanical, excluding obvious manufacturing flaws, i.e., porus blocks,etc) are accellerated due to tracking. Just my 2 cents worth.
jorge
The 996 i have has never tracked. I don't track it as I don't have a race team to maintain it afterwards (not enough $$).
IMHO, sportscars are high performance machines and not race cars. You just can't track a car over the weekend and expect it to perform flawlessly as a daily driver during the week. Maybe some reliability issues (i mean mechanical, excluding obvious manufacturing flaws, i.e., porus blocks,etc) are accellerated due to tracking. Just my 2 cents worth.
jorge
Last edited by karlooz; Jun 15, 2006 at 11:06 AM.
Karlooz
yep, i agree.
It is still my humble opinion about tracking. Some drivers are very good trackers.....others......well, what can i say?
I guess if you are going to track, learn on the beater.......
Can anyone describe what happens to the drivetrain during a spinout?
for rookies like me (manual trans with the tranny still in gear, clutch engaged)
thx
yep, i agree.
It is still my humble opinion about tracking. Some drivers are very good trackers.....others......well, what can i say?
I guess if you are going to track, learn on the beater....... Can anyone describe what happens to the drivetrain during a spinout?
for rookies like me (manual trans with the tranny still in gear, clutch engaged)
thx
After reading so many positive responses for the car I already made my mind up around a week or 2 ago that a 911 is the way to go. Havent looked for a M3 in a few weeks now!
Waiting for the right car though can be a bit of a tease!
Waiting for the right car though can be a bit of a tease!
if you spin out "both feet in". meaning depress the clutch and apply the brakes. it is especially important to depress the clutch to prevent the engine from going backwards while you still have it in a forward gear. not good.
Originally Posted by zdr2k
Karlooz
yep, i agree.
It is still my humble opinion about tracking. Some drivers are very good trackers.....others......well, what can i say?
I guess if you are going to track, learn on the beater.......
Can anyone describe what happens to the drivetrain during a spinout?
for rookies like me (manual trans with the tranny still in gear, clutch engaged)
thx
yep, i agree.
It is still my humble opinion about tracking. Some drivers are very good trackers.....others......well, what can i say?
I guess if you are going to track, learn on the beater....... Can anyone describe what happens to the drivetrain during a spinout?
for rookies like me (manual trans with the tranny still in gear, clutch engaged)
thx
Originally Posted by s14roller
After reading so many positive responses for the car I already made my mind up around a week or 2 ago that a 911 is the way to go. Havent looked for a M3 in a few weeks now!
Waiting for the right car though can be a bit of a tease!
Waiting for the right car though can be a bit of a tease!

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http://money.cnn.com/2006/06/07/Auto..._iqs/index.htm
Porsche tops quality survey
Toyota, Lexus top most vehicle segments in revised J.D. Power Initial Quality Study.
June 7, 2006: 5:05 PM EDT
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) - Porsche rises to the top in a new J.D. Power and Associates Initial Quality Survey. The survey was revised this year to take into account inherent design issues as well as malfunctions and manufacturing defects.
According to J.D. Power's survey of new vehicle owners, Porsche had 91 problems per 100 vehicles. Lexus, Toyota's luxury brand, came in a close second with 93 problems per 100 vehicles. Korea-based Hyundai ranked third with 102. The industry average was 124.
Toyota and Lexus ranked highest in most vehicle segments in the survey.
This year's scores are not comparable to those of previous years because this year, for the first time, J.D. Power considered design flaws that bother consumers as well as actual defects. Had the ranking been based on defects alone, Lexus would have ranked first and Porsche second.
"In the eyes of consumers, design flaws can have as much of an impact on their perceptions of quality as can a defect," said Joe Ivers, executive director of quality and customer satisfaction research for J.D. Power and Associates. "Yet, many manufacturers have tended to address quality solely on the plant floor without considering design factors."
Vehicle brands can vary widely in the two quality measures.
"For example, BMW vehicles have among the fewest defects and malfunctions, along with Toyota," said Ivers. "But BMW approaches controls and displays in a way that creates some problems for customers, leading to more design-related problems overall than Toyota incurs."
BMW ranked well below average in the survey with 142 problems per 100 vehicles.
A BMW spokesman attributed the large number of design-related issues to the amount of advanced technology in the company's vehicles.
"We are known, and we are expected to be, a leader in cutting edge technology," said David Buchko, a BMW spokesman.
New owners may have trouble using some of the vehicles' technology simply because it is unfimiliar to them, he said.
Some have suggest that the new J.D. Power rating system creates an "innovation penalty" said J.D. Power's Ivers. But companies can integrate technology in a way that doesn't annoy customers, he said.
"You won't have failures related to a parking assist system if you don't have a parking assist system," he said. "Then lexus comes out with one and customers don't have any propblem with it"
Land Rover, the British luxury SUV brand owned by Ford Motor Co., ranked last in the survey with 204 problems per 100 vehicles. But Jaguar, the British luxury car brand also owned by Ford, ranked fourth overall, just behind Toyota, with 109 problems per 100 vehicles.
J.D. Power's Initial Qualty Study was based on responses from 63,907 owners and lessees of new 2006 model-year cars and trucks. They were surveyed after 90 days of ownership.
Porsche tops quality survey
Toyota, Lexus top most vehicle segments in revised J.D. Power Initial Quality Study.
June 7, 2006: 5:05 PM EDT
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) - Porsche rises to the top in a new J.D. Power and Associates Initial Quality Survey. The survey was revised this year to take into account inherent design issues as well as malfunctions and manufacturing defects.
According to J.D. Power's survey of new vehicle owners, Porsche had 91 problems per 100 vehicles. Lexus, Toyota's luxury brand, came in a close second with 93 problems per 100 vehicles. Korea-based Hyundai ranked third with 102. The industry average was 124.
Toyota and Lexus ranked highest in most vehicle segments in the survey.
This year's scores are not comparable to those of previous years because this year, for the first time, J.D. Power considered design flaws that bother consumers as well as actual defects. Had the ranking been based on defects alone, Lexus would have ranked first and Porsche second.
"In the eyes of consumers, design flaws can have as much of an impact on their perceptions of quality as can a defect," said Joe Ivers, executive director of quality and customer satisfaction research for J.D. Power and Associates. "Yet, many manufacturers have tended to address quality solely on the plant floor without considering design factors."
Vehicle brands can vary widely in the two quality measures.
"For example, BMW vehicles have among the fewest defects and malfunctions, along with Toyota," said Ivers. "But BMW approaches controls and displays in a way that creates some problems for customers, leading to more design-related problems overall than Toyota incurs."
BMW ranked well below average in the survey with 142 problems per 100 vehicles.
A BMW spokesman attributed the large number of design-related issues to the amount of advanced technology in the company's vehicles.
"We are known, and we are expected to be, a leader in cutting edge technology," said David Buchko, a BMW spokesman.
New owners may have trouble using some of the vehicles' technology simply because it is unfimiliar to them, he said.
Some have suggest that the new J.D. Power rating system creates an "innovation penalty" said J.D. Power's Ivers. But companies can integrate technology in a way that doesn't annoy customers, he said.
"You won't have failures related to a parking assist system if you don't have a parking assist system," he said. "Then lexus comes out with one and customers don't have any propblem with it"
Land Rover, the British luxury SUV brand owned by Ford Motor Co., ranked last in the survey with 204 problems per 100 vehicles. But Jaguar, the British luxury car brand also owned by Ford, ranked fourth overall, just behind Toyota, with 109 problems per 100 vehicles.
J.D. Power's Initial Qualty Study was based on responses from 63,907 owners and lessees of new 2006 model-year cars and trucks. They were surveyed after 90 days of ownership.
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This was a great thread for those looking to get into a Porsche. Thanks
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