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Old Apr 22, 2004 | 07:56 PM
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Upsolute Chip-very Dissapointed

I'm sure glad they have a 30 DAY MONEY BACK GUARANTEE.

I have a 2001 C2 tip. I had Fabspeed maxflow muffler and their headers put on along with Evo. Motorsports highflow K&N cone intake put in. I was told I would need to remap the chip to get any real gain out of those as well as the 20 hp & torgue the upsolute chip was suppose to produce. If you add up all the manufacturers advertised gains, I would get an extra 40-50 hp & torgue gain. Realistically I was hoping for an extra 30hp & torgue.

I dealt with Lanny Richardson out of CA. He was great to deal with, gave me great instructions on removing the ecu and everything was done on time. Along with my ecu I sent to Lanny, I also included a flyer on all three of my mods along with a dyno sheet from each manufacturer. Lanny said the people that reprogram the chip in Austria are very familiar with most mods and take that all into account when reprogramming the chip. One thing I was very interested in what Lanny said was they up the max RPM to 7200. I was real happy about that because my tip (no matter if I'm in manual or auto mode)always shifts out of 1st at 6400 and all other gears between 6800-7000RPM.

One thing most people may not know is whomever you go through in the US does none of the reprogramming. They just act as a middle man with Austria. They just send the current ecu info to Austria and download the reprogrammed info from Austria onto you ecu. THE RESULTS.


I dynoed the car on 3/20/04, a hot afternoon at 3:50. My hp was 238.7 and torgue was 215.0. A little bit lower then WYO996 258hp and 219 torgue he did on his pre Evo. supercharger. I realize I have the extra loss of a tip transmission. We are both in CO at approx 5300-5500 feet.

I got the chip back, put it in, started and warmed my car up, looking forward to 7200 RPM. 1st gear shifted at exactly the same point, 6400RPM, 2nd and 3rd shifted at exactly the same RPM points. I'm not a happy camper. I realize I have to have the car re-dynoed to see if there are any gains. I go back to the same dyno, same guy runs it on a cool morning at 10:18. My new post chipped 996 is 236.1 hp and torque is 215.9. We re-ran it 3 times with no real change. The operator printed my pre and post chipped dyno runs over each other. They look almost exactly the same, with the pre chip run a little higher over the whole RPM range. WHAT A MAJOR DISSAPOINTMENT.

I'm now wondering if anything was reprogrammed since my car shifts at exactly the same low points, not at 7200 RPM.

I will be contacting Lanny tomorrow. I'll probably have to re-send my ecu back, be without my car for another 5 days and redyno the car again to make sure it's least at where it was hp & torgue before I sent the ecu to upsolute. I always tell people, you never know how good a company is until you have a problem. I will now find out about Upsolute. I am so dissapointed, since I've heard nothing but great things about Upsolutes chips. I will now have spent 225.00 on dyno's. What a royal PIA.

In my opinion, don't believe any manufactures claims of higher hp & torque with performance mods on a N/A 996. I spent $2,500 on Fabspeeds muffler/headers and EVO highflow intake. Don't waste your money on any of these mods unles you want a more agressive sounding car. I would still get the Fabspeed Maxflow muffler because of the great sound. Just don't expect and power gain. If you want real gains, I guess you should buy a TT or get the EVO or TPC supercharger. I've now spent 1/4 of what a S.C. would have cost, with zero power gains. This sucks.

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Old Apr 23, 2004 | 06:16 AM
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You wasted your money. Porsche gives about all the performance available for N/A engines. Unless, of course, you want to get into the engine internals. There are some bolt-ons that will raise performance levels, but not many. The Upsolute rep said that 20 HP is about all you get with a N/A engine. Get a TT with the Upsolute and hang on for dear life.
 
Old Apr 23, 2004 | 10:03 AM
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we could have told you that. there is no significant hp gain in those mods. but you should have ecu-ed it with evo, he's got it maped out pretty damn good. nevertheless you should have a 15-20 hp gain with all that you did, i am not too sure though for tiptronic.
 
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we could have told you that. there is no significant hp gain in those mods. but you should have ecu-ed it with evo, he's got it maped out pretty damn good. nevertheless you should have a 15-20 hp gain with all that you did, i am not too sure though for tiptronic. elevation and thin air maybe a huge factor, forced induction maybe where it's at for your elevation. i would assume that logically the air is so thin that you are not getting enough backpressure buildup for more torque and hp gain. sorry to hear your frustration.
 

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Old Apr 23, 2004 | 10:58 AM
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Thanks for the replies. Instead of spending $2,500 with Evo on the Fabspeed muffler/headers and their intake, I should have just waited for their S.C. to come out. I do like the sound of the Fabspeed muffler. I would still have bought that, additional power or not. Evo told me about their ecu upgrade, but 18hp & torque for 1,100 just didn't seem like a good deal. Since I would have kept the muffler no matter what, I guess I've only thrown away 1,400 for the headers and intake, plus 225 for the 2 dyno's plus the 1 dyno I'll have to do after I get my ecu back from upsolute. I'll be sure to answer anyones questions if their thinking of doing any performance mods for a N/A 996. No use in anyone else throwing money away.

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