Nah I've actaually never seen this one, The one I was talking about was with the c5 body style.

 

Judging by the clunky gearbox and harsh ride, the GT-R is the best Nissan has to offer? Or am I mistaken, the V-spec will be slightly lighter (3600 lbs ) and even stiffer. And we all know the TT is well down in the food chain at Porsche, so even at their best Nissan comes up short.


Well it seems as if the only true comparison tests done by Nissan drivers yielded them nearly even, and everything since then has been obscured with discrepancies.


When you actually know what you are talking about pay us a visit and try again.

 

What are you talking about? The TT has run just as fast and faster than the fastest GT-R test to date in performance figures. And I would gladly take my chances in a TT vs a GT-R on track because when you look through all the garbage you'll see they are very evenly matched. Nissan's super secret tires are the only thing that keep the GT-R in the ballpark. Put the same tires on each car and its curtains.

 

deserves a medal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQlnGB5KsoE

 

according to wikipedia an EVO holds the record are Tsukuba

 

It's probably the HKS EVO which has NASCAR budget for developement. That car is MEGA-FAST!!!!!!!

 

How? Are there sprinklers and artificial snow blowers along the circuit?

 

I would say it favors short wheelbase cars rather than AWD. You just dont see anything other than mostly Japanese cars out there anyways.

 

The only thing that favors AWD cars is slippery conditions - wet track or rally course. No other manufacturer besides Porsche to my knowledge builds cars that can roll off the showroom floor and run 10 years worth of track events without crumbling to pieces. Corvettes - even Z06's - are no exception.

 

Man, these thread just never seem to quit... I guess that's the beauty of the internet. Like *******s, everyone has an opinion.

We need to have a recognized racer (would love to see Danica Patrick since she has a Gallardo) compare these cars "stock" but fully optioned (so no tuner stuff) and get an opinion. Of course she might be biased towards a Lambo so we'd have to include another racer; an ALMS racer would be good that's driven for a lot of diffrent teams. Then perhaps we can put this to bed.

I suspect R&T will eventually have to do a smackdown to reveal the truth. Maybe Top Gear will do something.

I don't have dog in the fight but I think the speculation will go on through the summer... I'm entertained in the meantime reading these rants.... pass the pop-corn!

 

i have a tarted up beetle. hahhaa

 

So, when you buy a car you just look for the car that is fastest around the 'ring or some other track?

How applicable is that to every day driving? Does it make you feel better that you own a car that did a lap on some track faster than another car? I don't care if the GTR beat the 997TT going BACKWARDS I still wouldn't buy it over the 997TT. How often will you even approach the potential of any of these cars? Simple fact is I didn't grow up dreaming about owning a Nissan - as good as it may be. Now, If I had a track in my backyard and all I cared about was how fast I could get around that track, then maybe I'd give it more consideration.

There are lots of things that determine what car I buy. Not just what it did in some magazine test.

 

You are a moron and a noob here, hence why you didn't get the reference I made. There was a thread WITH VIDEOS when the whole Z06/997TT was going around, and it showed videos of both car's stock going BACK AND FORTH, now this is straight line not the track!

I don't care, cause I have a car that will humiliate both, carry on with your bickering!

 

I am saying that when TT came out, TT matched the 430's performance for half the price. And everyone, including me, was excited that TT was able to hang with 430 for less money. Now Nissan matched TT's performance with GTR for less money, but some people in here is talking like it is a sin for other cars to match TT's performance.

 

Oh ok, I get that. I have heard those things before. And just like there is nothing you can do to a TT even with similar performance to make it anything like a 430 or worth as much, there is nothing you can do with a GT-R to make it a TT. I dont buy into the small ***** syndrome ricer arguement where because I can go faster and paid less, I'm better than you. Or conversely, the well I have a Porsche,Ferrari,BMW and you dont therfore I'm better than you arguements.

Seems like people are always trying to find ways to prove they are better than the other person based on what car they have. I say see who's the better driver and meet at the track, that way it's on the person, not the car. Cars are inanimate objects, not affected by pressure, a real challenge is too a persons skills behind the wheel, not behind the keyboard.

Seems like the Japanese have been trying to prove something for far too long with the BM videos, and it has always been somewhat of a joke, but now it's rediculous. They used to really go at it on the track at least. And there is no doubt the Japanese performance cars are very capable, but the exaggerations are aggravating.