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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 06:51 AM
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PCCBs or Big Brembo kit...

I might be getting 997 TT without PCCBs...so I am thinking either to get take offs Pccbs from GT3 or Big Brembo kit...

Which brake kit would perform better on Street and Track ???

Anyone had tried them both ??? ....

What do you think...
 
Old Nov 10, 2008 | 07:51 AM
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Normal bigger brake kit better for street race..Short time only.
For track no doubt PCCB!!
 
Old Nov 10, 2008 | 10:54 AM
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Why short time only..they overheat quickly or dont last long ???
 
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We like to swap the pads in hte brembo kits when we go to the track and back to street pads for the street.

Depends on price really, in my opinion if your getting PCCB for price of Brembos, go PCCB, they are lighter. If they are significantly more money, buy brembos and two different sets of pads if you do go to the track.
 
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 05:32 AM
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Why do I need to swap pads with Brembos ??? this is not an option for ME...I dont want to swap anything...may be put good pads from that start and leave them...

What is the probs with those Brembos ??? I though they supposed to be much better brakes overall then stock or even Pccbs...

Anyone knows more info or used them...let ME know please...
 
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 07:03 AM
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In order to get proper braking on the street, you need pads that will react to cld tempatures on your steel rotors. Unfortunately, those pads alaos lose bite and high temps which you woudl see on a track. So people put heavy high temp pads on for racing schools that provide fade free stopping but dont bite for cold temp stops. The PCCB stops either place but with heavy track use, the PCCB will shatter and crack and be much more costly to replace then a new Brembo rotor. Hope this helps.
 
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I agree with TCM. PCCB's will not hold up to heavy track use, or prolonged use at high speed anywhere over time. And their replacement cost is very high.

I would suggest AP racing steel brake systems, but Brembo is also an option.
 
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Hmmm... some poeple said with proper use and if you replace pads on time...Pccbs will last long ???

So Brembo come with regular pads...and they loose their performace very fast at the track and overheat quickly???

What aboult regular steel ones ???
 
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You hit the nail right on the head, GT RUS, I think I remember you telling me once that you drive fast on your streets but don't spend much time at the track. If you bought PCCB with your porsche then I would keep them unless you really wanted Brembos. If you have the regular Porsche standard brake set up then I would purchase the Brembos over PCCB as the Brembos are about 3-4 thousand cheaper in the states.

Brembos are also bigger and in my opinion look a lot better looking and we can also offer custom paint options as well... Replacement pieces will also be cheaper as well.
 
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Hmmm... some poeple said with proper use and if you replace pads on time...Pccbs will last long ???

So Brembo come with regular pads...and they loose their performace very fast at the track and overheat quickly???

What aboult regular steel ones ???

Brembos GT kits are mainly for the street but can be used to occasional trake use but you need to switch to a hotter bad (which you need to do with any brake system when going to the track)

Brembo does offer a track brake kit solution but for your application I think the brembos will do just fine for what you need them to do as well as either stoptech or AP Racing. We sell all three depending on what the customers preferences are.
 
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 08:54 AM
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OK thanks...so there is no universal kit that can be used everywhere wihtout chamging pad...what esle do brembos do besides loosing wieght and better look ???
 
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They stop quicker than the standard Porsche Brakes. Stronger clamping force.
 
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Not really, at least not until you start talking about braking distances increasing due to heat soak and fade. The main difference is in the increased thermal capacity and better fade resistance. And of course, significant reduction in unsprung weight.

There are pads that provide reasonable crossover performance for street and track, but it depends on what level of driver you are, and your car performance of course. There are many people that can use the same pads for both street and track, but the really fast guys with fast cars will typically need to change pads for different purposes. For street you want a pad that has good cold friction, doesn't make a ton of noise, and is easy on the discs at low temperatures. Once you start talking about race pads, you give up all of these factors for rock-solid performance at sustained high temperatures.
 
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Ok thanks...what are the weight saving and what diff in stopping distance ???
 
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997TT Original Equipment (Iron Disc)
Front Caliper with Pads: 13.1 lbs
Front 350mm Disc: 25.6 lbs
Rear Caliper with Pads: 8.4 lbs
Rear 350mm Disc: 21.9 lbs

997TT PCCB
Front Caliper with Pads and Bracket: 13.8 lbs
Front 380mm PCCB Assembly: 14.0 lbs (estimated)
Rear Caliper with Pads: 8.4 lbs
Rear 350mm PCCB Assembly: 12.0 lbs

Brembo 380mm 6-piston Monobloc Front GT Kit
Front Caliper with Pads, Bracket: 11.9 lbs
Front 380mm Disc: 19.6 lbs

Brembo 380mm 4-piston Monobloc Rear GT Kit
Rear Caliper with Pads, Bracket: 9.1 lbs
Rear 380mm Disc: 16.6 lbs.<!-- google_ad_section_end --><!-- / message --><!-- edit note -->
 

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