Reliability of the modified ~700 hp 997 TTs?
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All the tuners saying they are ok,but I still worrying about.So I don't drive my car daily,only in the weekend or track day. No more than 50 miles a week...
If you drive a EVT700 or AWE750 ish car every day and rev it every day,even the engine still working fine but the power output will be less and less everyday for sure,thats what modified engine always do.So save it life=keep the perfact performance.
If you drive a EVT700 or AWE750 ish car every day and rev it every day,even the engine still working fine but the power output will be less and less everyday for sure,thats what modified engine always do.So save it life=keep the perfact performance.
Also there is a post about price for the 700 kit(s). I called AWE and their price for their kit installed was 15k.
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I am in the same boat as you are. I am seriously thinking about shipping my car to AWE for the setup that eclou has. I have asked these questions of everyone I can think of. I don't track the car and it is not my day driver. I drive very conservatively. The answers I get seem to be all the same ie that the car is reliable, fun, and has longevity. I am going to run this by my dealer who is mod friendly and see what they say about warranty. They may want to do it for me, make the money and keep my warranty.
If you want to have increased horsepower only for "bragging rights", you've got to know that the minute you roll it out of the shop someone else is going to drive up with 50 more horsepower than you. (Like the fastest gun in the West.)
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Its a simple rule.Like your car done the 700kit mod when it 2000miles,which perfact condition,and with the mods you are good at 700hp.but if you drive like 30-50 miles a day and race it hard on road sometimes.Soon when the car getting 10000 miles do you think you still have 700hp?I mean all the mechanical parts(nothing to do with the service,it just feed what the parts needed but not save it life) have life limit,so they getting weaker and weaker after rev and rev so the power output will be less and less after certain miles.You could dyno your car right now and keep the result in mind,then dyno it again after 10000 miles you will see less numbers.
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I dont know whats funny about US VS EURO HP numbers but performance figures talk for them selves...Dont know for other US tuners but my previous 997 TT with SPI 750 kit runned 0-60 in 2.4 or 0-100 in 5.8 or 60-130 in 6.55 or 1/4 in 10.4 on driftbox and 10.66 1st time at the track with soft launch on 0-60 in 2.7 ??? ...so this proves...that the car has got enough power to beat R12 that run 0-60 in 3.2 and 0-100 in 6.6 if I recall correctly...
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I'm curious as to why you would want to modify your car, if as you say you drive very conservatively, don't use the car on a daily basis or on the track, and you're concerned about possible warranty issues.
If you want to have increased horsepower only for "bragging rights", you've got to know that the minute you roll it out of the shop someone else is going to drive up with 50 more horsepower than you. (Like the fastest gun in the West.)
If you want to have increased horsepower only for "bragging rights", you've got to know that the minute you roll it out of the shop someone else is going to drive up with 50 more horsepower than you. (Like the fastest gun in the West.)
I knew the Turbo could offer more. The first set of mods (exhaust, intercoolers, intake, flash, tips) were simple enough and had beeen tested on a fairly decent sample if cars .
The result was amazing . The car sounded better, pulled harder and faced less lag .
Jumping to 700 made all the difference though. The modified Turbos are that much better at providing a smoother climb and with the extra gear acceleration does not let off .
Yes --there can be faster . Maybe I'll make mine faster too over time
. I can say that so far (4K miles on my kit) I am happy as pie - I can't guess the "reliability" of my cars future -- but I can claim one year of happiness from the results . I can't imagine if I had missed the opportunity .
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Its a simple rule.Like your car done the 700kit mod when it 2000miles,which perfact condition,and with the mods you are good at 700hp.but if you drive like 30-50 miles a day and race it hard on road sometimes.Soon when the car getting 10000 miles do you think you still have 700hp?I mean all the mechanical parts(nothing to do with the service,it just feed what the parts needed but not save it life) have life limit,so they getting weaker and weaker after rev and rev so the power output will be less and less after certain miles.You could dyno your car right now and keep the result in mind,then dyno it again after 10000 miles you will see less numbers.
Plus I don't even think that the premise is valid if proper care and maintenance is given to a car.
If a car is getting "weak" it needs to be repaired --whether it has 2 miles or 200K miles a problem needs to be addressed and resolved.
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I may still go through with the AWE deal.
Interesting to note the following:
-You will be very hard pressed to eventually sell the car. If you plan on trading it in, for most dealers, they will have to return it to stock form to sell it at a low price (read: auction).
-You could take that money used for mods, and put money towards a GT2 or a dedicated track car.
-If your modded TT becomes mostly a track car, it will have a short and expensive life.
Just some thoughts...
Interesting to note the following:
-You will be very hard pressed to eventually sell the car. If you plan on trading it in, for most dealers, they will have to return it to stock form to sell it at a low price (read: auction).
-You could take that money used for mods, and put money towards a GT2 or a dedicated track car.
-If your modded TT becomes mostly a track car, it will have a short and expensive life.
Just some thoughts...
how much is the damage?
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This logic of a car weakening from age could apply to a stock Turbo too . ALL parts age .
Plus I don't even think that the premise is valid if proper care and maintenance is given to a car.
If a car is getting "weak" it needs to be repaired --whether it has 2 miles or 200K miles a problem needs to be addressed and resolved.
Plus I don't even think that the premise is valid if proper care and maintenance is given to a car.
If a car is getting "weak" it needs to be repaired --whether it has 2 miles or 200K miles a problem needs to be addressed and resolved.
More importantly...the upgraded 997TTs have already undergone significant benchtesting with 600, 700HP +. It's called the 996TT.
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if one looks at evos wordings on their web site it says one year power guarantee, hmm
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some of these questions can be answered with some research, it doesn't matter if you are modding a 100k sports car or a 25K Civic. Simple bolt on mods generally do not create any dependability issues with stock motors. Manufacturers detune engines before they are put into street cars with warranties. Obviously, you need to take several things into consideration before you begin to mod:
1. Ownership period
2. Service
3. Resale Value
How long will you keep your car? Are the mods reverseable? If adding another 25 or 80 horsepower allows you to keep your grin a little longer, then you are probably saving money in the long run, this is due to point number 3. Your resale value is going to get crushed if you short sell. Holding a car longer is in your best financial interest, how else do you keep from getting bored?
I have been down the road of dumping serious money into cars, trying to get them to perform 1000% past their stock levels and it is never worth it IMO. I am a fan of waking a car up, and headers, exhaust, ECU are all harmless mods to a turbo car.
Would I want to be the first Turbo to get mods? not a chance!
1. Ownership period
2. Service
3. Resale Value
How long will you keep your car? Are the mods reverseable? If adding another 25 or 80 horsepower allows you to keep your grin a little longer, then you are probably saving money in the long run, this is due to point number 3. Your resale value is going to get crushed if you short sell. Holding a car longer is in your best financial interest, how else do you keep from getting bored?
I have been down the road of dumping serious money into cars, trying to get them to perform 1000% past their stock levels and it is never worth it IMO. I am a fan of waking a car up, and headers, exhaust, ECU are all harmless mods to a turbo car.
Would I want to be the first Turbo to get mods? not a chance!
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I dont know whats funny about US VS EURO HP numbers but performance figures talk for them selves...Dont know for other US tuners but my previous 997 TT with SPI 750 kit runned 0-60 in 2.4 or 0-100 in 5.8 or 60-130 in 6.55 or 1/4 in 10.4 on driftbox and 10.66 1st time at the track with soft launch on 0-60 in 2.7 ??? ...so this proves...that the car has got enough power to beat R12 that run 0-60 in 3.2 and 0-100 in 6.6 if I recall correctly...
I wonder why they still posting here and keep asking U.S tuners about thier products and how to make more power on thier slow *** cars LOL