How Would my tuned 2008 Porsche 997 Turbo with AWE 650s tune which includes GIAC flash compare to the new Porsche 997.2 with PDK in terms of specifications such as 0 to 60 time Hp Totque etc.
Nice if Mike from AWE Chimes in.
Purpose of the post is to show whether a tuned Porsche rules over the 997.2
Todo

 

Well obviously you are going to have a stock 2010 beat on all those stats.

HP Check
Tq Check
0-60 Depends if you can drive. Check if you can
0-100 Check
60-130 Check
1/4 miles Check

Road course???

 

awesome

 

very cool

 

You have over 100 or so more Hp so what is the question.....

 

0-60 you will be surprised at a launched PDK C2S. But from any roll whatsoever the Turbo will crush it once modded.

Unless you launch it like you stole it all that HP does not come into play for a few seconds where a computer launched car can hang quite easily.

If you go from 60-120 the difference would be huge as an example.

 

Why would you compare like that??
How about a 650hp PDK 997TT.2..Pdk is magic.99% of us can't changing gear as fast as a PDK so if it has 650hp you lose.

 

Can PDK handle 650 HP?

 

thats the qestion i would like answered lol

 

This answer your question?

 

It's not about HP it's about what torque it can handle.

ZF originally supplied Porsche with 2 PDK transmissions. One rated at 450Nm, and one at 700Nm. I assumed the 700Nm one would go into the Turbo (as the 997.1 Turbo has 620/680Nm normal/over-boost, and the 997.2 Turbo has 650/700Nm). However, various people have reported the PDK transmission in the new 997.2 Turbo can handle up to 780Nm torque, so perhaps ZF supplied Porsche with a third transmission that they haven't broadcast a press release about?!

Now baring in mind that a Stage II aftermarket powerkit (Exhaust + ECU) will take a 997.1 Turbo to about the 780Nm mark (mine is 800Nm) then tuning even to 530bhp and the torque that usually comes with, you will probably need a VERY expensive PDK upgrade too.

There are also other rumours that Porsche have made it much harder for tuners to tune the facelift Turbo. How they have done this I don't know though.

 

Looks like the AWE 700 Tune on TT (4.5) degrades the 0 to 100 over stock (3.7)?
I wonder what AWE has to say about that!!

 

No, just means that the owner didn't want to smoke their clutch on a fast launch!

I would ignore all 0-100 KPH times as they are pretty meaningless. 100-200 (62 to 124mph) times are best to compare.

 

These are very dubious comparisons. Based on an "N" of 1, or a small of trials (unlikely), and reported in the automotive press.

With turbos, obviously ambient temperature would play a huge role, as would the driver's ability. It has no meaning - it is anectodal, would never pass peer-review in any scientific or engineering publication. The only proper way to do this would be a large study, with multiple side-by-side comparisons with the only variable being the car, not the conditions or the driver.

Just look at the driver 'effect' in comparable F1 cars on the same team.

Most good racing drivers can perform faster than the a PDK shifter! Give me a break.

 

I agree, but as that isn't ever going to happen - people's Performance Box results are as good as we are going to get it. It certainly still gives you a very good indication of the performances, even if it's not particular scientific. Yes; temperatures, fuel grades, slope inclines, road conditions, and even winds can have a big affect on results. It's not going to change the 100-200kph times though by more than about 0.5s (unless you found a VERY steep slope!)

I have to say that accelerating in a straight line and changing gear once between 100-200kph does not exactly need a highly skilled driver though. This is why I suggested ignoring the 0-100 times as then the driver factor is much less. 100-200kph times can give a good indication of the real straight line performance of a car.