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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 11:39 PM
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Is PCCB worth the extra 9K?

aside from getting a yellow dial, seat-belt to match would be very cool, and no brake dust?
 
Old Oct 7, 2009 | 02:02 AM
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aside from getting a yellow dial, seat-belt to match would be very cool, and no brake dust?
I would consider it more on a street driven 997S than a Turbo unless you absolutely plan to keep the car stock or modestly customized .

The reason I say this is because the PCCB brakes were designed for a car with less Hp than what is attainable with upgrades .
I found that the steel brakes for instance worked very well up to about 550 Hp . Beyond that point they still were able to stop the car but not nearly as well as the Brembo . When a car can go so fast so quickly if it needs to stop immediately I don't think the stock brakes can do it as well.

No brake dust is very nice but the wheel can still get dirty . You'll never see the 9K in resale . the Brembo , it costs less , stops better, and can be parted out if you wish as long as you save the stock brakes. The drawback is that the car is no longer factory stock and that's something that some folks prefer .

You can't go wrong with any of thse choices .
 
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BTW --I have seen the yellow dial and belts. Looks nice on black with carbon if that's the style you are looking for.


 
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The reason I say this is because the PCCB brakes were designed for a car with less Hp than what is attainable with upgrades .
I found that the steel brakes for instance worked very well up to about 550 Hp . Beyond that point they still were able to stop the car but not nearly as well as the Brembo . When a car can go so fast so quickly if it needs to stop immediately I don't think the stock brakes can do it as well.
Have you ever tracked your car?
 
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Originally Posted by yrralis1
I would consider it more on a street driven 997S than a Turbo unless you absolutely plan to keep the car stock or modestly customized .

The reason I say this is because the PCCB brakes were designed for a car with less Hp than what is attainable with upgrades .
I found that the steel brakes for instance worked very well up to about 550 Hp . Beyond that point they still were able to stop the car but not nearly as well as the Brembo . When a car can go so fast so quickly if it needs to stop immediately I don't think the stock brakes can do it as well.

No brake dust is very nice but the wheel can still get dirty . You'll never see the 9K in resale . the Brembo , it costs less , stops better, and can be parted out if you wish as long as you save the stock brakes. The drawback is that the car is no longer factory stock and that's something that some folks prefer .

You can't go wrong with any of thse choices .
my stock 08 TT calipers are made by Brembo...your statement implies that brembo's are an upgrade

BTW, i think for some the PCCB is worth it, such as people who track their cars a great deal, but for daily stree use the standard porsche brakes are top notch
 

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They are not a good choice for people who track their cars often. They do stop well, and don't fade as easily, but the cost of replacement is prohibitive. For the street, they're great, but not worth the money.

Do a search here or on the other Porsche forums and you will find multiple threads on this topic.

I have Brembo GTRs (8 piston) on the car that I track.
 
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Originally Posted by handdoc
my stock 08 TT calipers are made by Brembo...your statement implies that brembo's are an upgrade

BTW, i think for some the PCCB is worth it, such as people who track their cars a great deal, but for daily stree use the standard porsche brakes are top notch
His Brembos are an upgrade.

PCCBs can be a problem for track junkies. Many track guys remove them in favor of the irons. Novice drivers have to be aware that the rears may heat up more from TC/PSM working overtime.
 

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BTW --I have seen the yellow dial and belts. Looks nice on black with carbon if that's the style you are looking for.


Any idea on how they ordered the SC dial in yellow? Same dealer and it was missed on this car:
 
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Any idea on how they ordered the SC dial in yellow? Same dealer and it was missed on this car:
Could that be a P-Shop??? Never seen that before.
As far as PCCB goes, I wouldn't have bought my TT without them for a few reasons:
1) They look amazing behind the rim.
2) There is NO brake dust, NONE (I hate brake dust)
3) Their stopping power is absolutely insane.

I don't track my car and I'm not saying the "Big Reds" aren't great brakes too,
but for me PCCB was a must have option.
You can't go wrong either way.
Just my .02
 
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Originally Posted by nyamg
Could that be a P-Shop??? Never seen that before.
As far as PCCB goes, I wouldn't have bought my TT without them for a few reasons:
1) They look amazing behind the rim.
2) There is NO brake dust, NONE (I hate brake dust)
3) Their stopping power is absolutely insane.

I don't track my car and I'm not saying the "Big Reds" aren't great brakes too,
but for me PCCB was a must have option.
You can't go wrong either way.
Just my .02
Doubt it is a p-chop. Seem to be different cars - note wheel. handbrake, shifter and most obvious - exterior color (one is blue, one is black)
 
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Doubt it is a p-chop. Seem to be different cars - note wheel. handbrake, shifter and most obvious - exterior color (one is blue, one is black)

Good eyes!
 
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I might be opening up a can of worms here but, for track use, I suggest the irons. PCCBs have problems chewing up rear rotors for the track users.
 
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I have PCCB's on my 07tt (with 500whp) and just ordered my 997.2tt with them. I track about 20 days a year. I replace pads regularly to avoid damage to the rotors. They are incredible on the track and on the street and I would not have a Porsche without them.
 
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Never go without PCCB's, no dust, no sound just pure stopping power. I had the reds on my 996TT they are good, but.... to answer the question, PCCB are totally worth it!
 
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Originally Posted by csoule
I have PCCB's on my 07tt (with 500whp) and just ordered my 997.2tt with them. I track about 20 days a year. I replace pads regularly to avoid damage to the rotors. They are incredible on the track and on the street and I would not have a Porsche without them.
This is where I take issue with claims of endurance of PCCBs. I'm at the track about as much, have two and a half seasons on my car, and 25,000 miles, yet I've haven't replaced any brake components. Fade was a problem the first few days but a set of $80 SS brake lines cleared that problem right up.
 


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