Hi everyone,

I'm in my way to upgrade my 997TT to 700/750 kit. As part of the intensive search I have done, I found a lot of great feedback from tuners and owners, so I thought about set spread sheet that can be updated by everyone to compare different cars with different kits to help everyone to make the right decision when it comes to upgrade the 997TT engine.

Before we start I would like to clarify or highlight some points:

- I'm not professional and far from being professional. I'm regular person with engineering background ( help me to understand a lot of things ) who loves his car so much , so I might have wrong info and everyone is always welcome to correct me.

- expensive kit doesn't not mean fast car and visa versa. High dyno HP and torque numbers don't mean fast 1/4mile and 60-130 as a lot of variables effect the dyno result.

so there are a lot of reasons that makes someone goes to one kit over the other: price, speed, reliability, warranty, location, relation, customer service ... etc etc. This thread with the updated sheet will help me and everyone to make the right decision, and always remember THERE IS NO ABSOLUTE BEST.

The compression is going to be between cars as fallows:

tuner:
kit name:
Turbo:
ECU:
Intercoolers:
exhaust:
air intake:
clutch:
extra parts:
dyno resault:
Max Power=.......- max torque=.......ft-lbs with PUMP fuel at.....bar -Temp=.....
Max Power=.......- max torque=.......ft-lbs with RACE fuel at.....bar -Temp=.....
0-60mph:....sec
0-100mph:....sec
60-130mph:....sec
1/4 mile:....sec @ .... mph
standing mile:....sec@.....mph
transmission: 6spd - tip - PDK
tires and wheels:
extra info about the kit and car:


If there is anything I should add to the list that I forgot please let me know.


click here to see sample of the sheet I'm working on. Most of the information were gathered from the posts by 6speed members. nothing out of the 6speed community.

There is a lot more info's that I have saved in word file about same cars with different set up that were changed over the time or some issues needed to be fixed and how, but I listed the last result or the best. Also I have a lot of technical info from tuners websites and posts about their kits. ( ALL AVAILABLE IF NEEDED)


- Abdullah

 

TPC-Racing

KIT:
775Blitzkrieg
Turbo:
modified turbo VTG turbochargers. 2.0mm larger compressor inducer than the stock GT2 and a 1.5mm larger exducer. VNT turbines
Intercooler:
TPCRacing 775Blitzkrieg Intercoolers, with a whopping 127mm(5") core
ECU:
N/I
Exhaust:
BLITZKRIEG 76mm EUROPIPE Exhaust custom built by EUROPIPE for the 775 kit.
Clutch:
N/I
Extra:
1.0bar @ normal and 1.2bar @ sport mode for the dyno numbers
Performance:
Dyno:
Max Power=652.03 - max torque=548.40ft-lbs with fuel pump 93 at
1.05 bar

Max Power=673.08 - max torque=605.53ft-lbs with fuel pump 93 at
1.25 bar (temp = 84.04 F, baro pressure = 29.54 in-Hg, humidity = 26%)
Dynojet

0-60: N/I
60-130: 6.8 with a shift. It was measured during ¼ mile run
1/4mile: 10.650 sec at 135.21 MPH
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...997tt-yet.html
Users with this kit:
N/I

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tuner: SWITZER
kit name: L4 700/750 PKG
Turbo: VTG
ECU: nii
Intercoolers: SPI MONSTER IC’s 6''
exhaust: competition style Full exhaust by SPI
air intake: Y-pipe by SPI
clutch: SPI HD clutch system for 6speed 997TT
extra parts: n/i
dyno resault:
Max Power=.......- max torque=.......ft-lbs with PUMP fuel at.....bar -Temp=.....
Max Power=.......- max torque=.......ft-lbs with RACE fuel at.....bar -Temp=.....
0-60mph: 10.666@132.65MPH
0-100mph:....sec
60-130mph:....sec
1/4 mile:....sec @ .... mph
standing mile:....sec@.....mph
transmission: 6spd - tip - PDK
tires and wheels:
extra info about the kit and car:
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...g-gallery.html
users with the kit:
1) Webtool1 :
2) whiteknight;
3) GT RUS:
4)vboxking
5)evoviiiyou
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tuner: EVOMS
kit name: EVT700
Turbo: VTG
ECU: EVOMSit
Intercoolers: EVOMS 99TT clubsport IC’s 25% larger core than OEM intercoolers
exhaust: 70mm exhaust system with 200 cell catalysts
41.5mm primary tube diameter headers.
air intake: n/i
clutch: EVOMS 997TT stage 3 clutch supports sustained torque levels beyond 740ft/lbs ( factory 640 ft/lbs).
extra parts: EVOMS 997TT boost recirculation valves
dyno resault:
Max Power= 703HP (607.673) - max torque= 690 (609.329) ft-lbs with fuel pump 93 at
Bar (n/i)
Max Power= 730 - max torque= 728 ft-lbs with 103+ octane race fuel at (n/i)
AWD 17.5% correction factor as tested on the EVOMS mustange 500-SE AWD chassis dyno.
0-60mph:2.9sec
0-100mph:6.8sec
60-130mph:....sec
1/4 mile: 10.81@133.5MPH fastest 10.79@134
standing mile: 190MPH
transmission: n/i
tires and wheels: n/i
extra info about the kit and car:
http://www.evoms.com/evo/Pages/EVT700INFO.asp
Users with this kit:
1) 911JT
2) elow

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Tuner: AWE-tuning
Kit:
750R -
Turbo:
A.W.E. Tuning VTG Turbos, developed in a joint venture between A.W.E. Tuning and BorgWarner, who is the manufacturer of the OEM 997TT turbos.
ECU:
G.I.A.C. Software Programs
Intercooler:
37% larger than OEM (422 cubic inches vs 308 cubic inches) they also drop air intake temperatures by 55 degrees Fahrenheit and improve pressure drop resistance through the core by 1 psi.
6-ply silicone hoses with gentle curves to prevent bursting under pressure with clamps
Exhaust:
German made 200 cell high flow catalytic. The rest of the system made by AWE.
Extra:
n/i
Clutch:
Stage2 Clutch Kit - hold over 544 lb/ft torque while maintaining stock-like pedal effort. ( included in the kit )
The Stage 3 Clutch kit is conservatively rated to hold over 644 lb/ft torque. Pedal feel is slightly stiffer than Stage 2 with a higher release point. ( I think it’s optional )
Performance:
Dyno:
Max Power= 600HP - max torque= 543 ft-lbs with fuel pump 93 at 1.1bar
Max Power= 630HP - max torque= 574 ft-lbs with fuel pump 104 at - 1.2 bar.
Mustang dyno – bar reading not in the website Post #53 also there is a sheet showing 22.3 psi ( 1.537 bar ) for the 700S kit

Numbers:

0-60: n/i
0-100: n/i
60-130: n/i
1/4mile: 11.2 at 128 mph in early testing on pump gas.
1 mile : n/i
Extra info :
ability to switch between software programs on the fly
Users with this kit:

1) Botox
2) quik 911
3) onecmxliv:
self install:
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...-pictures.html
4) jnixon:
11.5 129mph 1/4mile on the race gas setting of the AWE 700/750. I am not speed shifting but this has been my best trap speed and et time. I did this with the sport button off and the traction control on.
5) Eclou:
0-60: 4.2 ( in Texas miles 10mph headwind)
0-100:
60-130: 0-130mph of 6.97s and 7.00 58F, no wind, concrete road (not a prepared track)
1/4mile:
1 mile : 185.8 with a weak launch (left PSM on). 6-10mph slower than the previous event from the headwinds
6spd manual
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...it-review.html

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VIVIDRACING
Kit:
VR750
Turbo:
Modified factory turbo’s. ach turbo is disassembled and rebuilt with a larger turbo wheel that flows almost 40cfm more then the stock units.
ECU:
Softronic
Intercooler:
Agency Power High Flow Intercoolers *
Exhaust:
Agency power full exhaust
Extra:
Agency Power Carbon Fiber Cold Air Intake
Post recirculation valves
Clutch:
Clutch Masters Stage 3. designed to hold up to 800 horsepower with an OEM feel.
Performance:
Dyno:
Max Power= - max torque= ft-lbs with fuel pump at
bar
Max Power= - max torque= ft-lbs with fuel pump at
Bar
Numbers:
NO info
0-60:
0-100:
60-130:
1/4mile:
1 mile :

Extra info :
http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/v...7-p-65514.html

Users with this kit:
1) Caleb_StuntMan:
gumball3000 car 4000 miles with no problems - tiptronic

2) KA 997TT:
now has EVOMS EVT700 but here is what he got with the kit:
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PROTOMOTIVE

Kit:
Turbo: Upgraded VGT
ECU:Protomotive by todd
Intercooler: 5’’
Exhaust:n/i
Extra:n/i
Clutch: lwfw/sachs motorsport clutch upgrade


users with the kit:

1) keithta
Search under his username a lot of good info although he has bigger kit
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...-mile-run.html
2)997john:
3)red 9:
4) aisxos :

5)treynor:

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You sure ?

tuner: Cargraphic/RS Tuning
kit name: Stage 3 + Carrillo
Turbo: VTG
ECU: standard Motronic
Intercoolers: Secan
exhaust: Cargraphic
air intake: Cargraphic carbon
extra parts: CG headers, 100 cell race HJS cats
dyno resault: engine dyno: 624PS, 900NM DIN
Max Power=..624PS- max torque=.662ft-lbs with 100RON Shell V Power PUMP fuel at.DIN....bar -Temp=.DIN....
Max Power=.N/A.- max torque=..N/A..ft-lbs with RACE fuel at.....bar -Temp=.....
0-60mph: est.2.9s...sec 0-100kph: 3.0s
0-100mph:est.6.8s...sec 0-200kph: 9.1s
60-130mph:est.7s...sec 0-300kph: 23.8s
1/4 mile:....sec @ .... mph
standing mile:est .30s..sec.190....mph
transmission: 6spd 890NM Sachs clutch
tires and wheels:9X19 12X19 Dunlop Maxx
extra info about the kit and car: Wears full GT2 bodywork so extra drag over 200kph compared to 997tt, engine is built including Carrillo rods, oh and test weight of 1519kg/3350lbs (full of fuel but no passengers) probably helped a bit

 

Thanks for all the time and effort put out to oragnize this list for other members!

 

Yes, price wise as VIVID and PROTOMOTIVE a lot cheaper, but I do love cargraphic a lot and love the work they put on their products.

 

Thanks 3bdullah I'm sure this post will help many members thinking of getting any of those kits .

 

great info, thanks

 

Thanks for adding us... Please note that our 775 car uses Sachs Motorsport clutch available through us... The only thing that we found that would hold our level of power without going to a multipack(which isnt streetable). The 775 car also was running our old 4.5" intercoolers when that time was run... Our 5" coolers have not been run yet... Currently 4 other 6speeders with teh 775 kit that just havent chimed in yet, i suppose.

 

I appreciate being in the same classification as TPC, Proto, EVO, Switzer. I have 2 very fast cars in Kuwait and many more customers.

Abdullah please add my correct kit and delete that other info - http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/v...9-p-80007.html

 

cayenne_ksa,

I think most will agree that each of the kits and manufacturers you've mentioned above make a good product. Although I have my personal preferences (EVOMS), I will say this. As an end user you need to consider not only the hardware and performance of the kit, but also give a lot of consideration to reliability and after-purchase support.

Sure, there are many folks out there who can make great power and build a super fast car, but the key question is how well do these cars run a month, three months, a year, two years, down the road? I can honestly say that the EVT750 and EVT800 kits we've installed are all still running flawlessly and between EVOMS and their fantastic network of dealers I don't think you'll find a better, more proven, and reliable solution.

 

With the AWE 700S/750R kit also has the larger throttle body/plenum combo as well.

 

I'm working on the sheet and will be updated with more info soon

Dan: The kit above is the modified VTG kit as i was focusing mainly on this level but I will add you monster kit ;-)

 

UPDATED vivid 825, cargraphic and some other members

 

Hi there Abdullah. Above you have me listed under the Switzer L4 700/750...which I do not have. Just wanting your list to be a accurate as possible. you have received my updated info. Again great job compiling this info.

 

When i see pictures like this it just makes my day