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Old Jun 1, 2011 | 05:39 PM
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Modded tiptronic owner here... Love the PDK but seems to be lacking the ability to shift over 700WHP.. Which makes the 6speed king.
 
Old Jun 1, 2011 | 06:05 PM
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Love the pdk and I can make a 6speed dance. The huge advantage is quick shifts with no loss of boost plus more time to concentrate on you line when driving aggressively. Just my 2 cents

Can't imagine anyone not liking it far better. IMHO the manual will continue to decline in popularity year after year. No reason for it. Most race cars have some type of auto F1,pdk or straight select

I never thought I would have purchased a pdk car until I drove it. It is sick gobtry one and you will see
 
Old Jun 1, 2011 | 07:19 PM
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6 speed vs PDK

<hr style="color:#FFFFFF; background-color:#FFFFFF" size="1"> First of all I use my cars only a couple of time a month, these are not daily drivers.

I had a 2009 Turbo cab with a 6 speed, I now have a 2011 Turbo S cab with PDK I prefer the manual trans experience, you fell more in control. 3 things that stick out with me are

1) on the 6 speed the rev-limiter between 1st and 2nd gear would occur many times, does not happen with PDK. this is a win for PDK
2) you control the low end of the RPM's with the manual. PDK keeps the RPMs up based on Sport or Sport plus mode. Win for manual
3) PDK car is much faster

So my summary PDK is much better and faster for straight line acceleration, but for a driver interaction the manual wins.
 
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2) you control the low end of the RPM's with the manual. PDK keeps the RPMs up based on Sport or Sport plus mode. Win for manual
If you shift manually with PDK, you control the low end of RPMs. Tie.
 
Old Jun 1, 2011 | 09:23 PM
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I've used tip, manuals, PDK, and egear extensively on the road, never tracked them yet.

The tip was by far the best daily. Manual mode is OK, torque allows 0-25mph in 2nd once warmed up, so no constant shifting and searching, and it's indestructible. Mileage probly poor.

Not a fan of PDK, but agree its the future. It's just a fast automatic.
The jerky F1/egear is a good compromise, more connected, literally, with dry clutch. With better software and wear characteristics, why do we need the heavier PDK? (See new Aventador) Plus,
Shifters mounted on the wheel are difficult to use.

If you live in an area without traffic and hills, and aren't racing from stoplights, manual! Mine is doing 600 miles tomorrow.
 
Old Jun 29, 2011 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by thebland
After owning 2 Carreras along the way, both manuals and now with a Turbo S and PDK, I don't miss the hassle of the manual at all - if it were faster or more responsive, that would be one thing - but it's not. Just got back from Porsche's Driving school last week and the Porsche drivers all concurred that if speed and performance is your game, the PDK is the best option.
I don't mean to thread hijack and this is an amazing thread at that but Bland, how was PDE?

I tried sending PM but was not allowed due to newbie status.

I was hoping to get your insights. PM fine as not to clutter this fine thread
 
Old Jun 29, 2011 | 12:12 PM
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Also, just wondering, those with PDK, are you using paddles or the actual shifter?

Pros/Cons on both?

I agree with the previous poster who mentioned it being tough to canyon drive the PDK using paddles as the paddles move with the wheel.

I got very used to them remaining permanent on the stalk in the GT-R and shuffle steering accordingly.

But I just tried the shifter out yesterday and loved it.

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts.
 
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I've been driving an 09 C2S PDK for a year. I only bought it because the price was too good to pass up. The plan was to use it as a trade for a 6 speed Turbo. I do have to say it is easier to drive and hense less driver interaction. The moving of the PDK lever seems to be unnessary but I do it anyway, sometimes. It is easier in traffic though.I'm looking forward to a 6 speed turbo as my next Porsche.

I also have a '10 Jaguar XF Supercharged and I think that car shifts faster than the PDK.
 
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Before I purchased my 911, I drove a Tip, a PDK and a 6 speed. I wound up buying the 6 speed as I felt a large part of the driving experience was in shifting manually. I also drove a Corvette with the paddle shifter, and I felt that the driving sensation somewhat mirrored the Tip and PDK cars.
 
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Originally Posted by tradervic
I don't mean to thread hijack and this is an amazing thread at that but Bland, how was PDE?

I tried sending PM but was not allowed due to newbie status.

I was hoping to get your insights. PM fine as not to clutter this fine thread
The Porsche Driving school was an amazing experience. Anyone who hasn't taken a true driving class should really do it if they really want to understand the beauty of this car when it comes to performance. I learned quite a bit and I've owned 3 carreras! Loved it and enjoyed being in Alabama!

I took the 2 day Performance Course (first level). It was two days. 1 hour of instruction per day, 7-8 hours of track per day. This is divided into actual track time on the gorgeous Skip Barber track (2.3 miles, 16 turns), autocross (where they set up a slalom like course and teach you how to drive it as fast as possible without hitting cones and a skid pad (think asphalt football field with sprinklers.

Simple a blast. Well organized and much learned form the Porsche drivers. All the Porsche drivers I met thought the manual was a out and the PDK was the only way to buy a Porsche these days. But again, their frame of reference was performance. They did teach heal and toe, however.

THe meals were first class and the one big dinner featured great wines, filet, halibut and a venue that made for a perfect 2 days. Every angle was covered. The instructors and drivers were professional, knowledgeable and could drive like I have never seen. THe track reminded me of Augusta National. Perfectly manicured, clean and a wild ride with great elevations and turns.

I left learning how to turn, brake, when to accelerate out of a turn and how to better manage wet pavement. Basically, we all left learning to drive not only better but faster!

Each time you went to the track, the goal was to drive faster, turn faster, brakes harder and push yourself and your car to its limits.

They weaved in driving competitions, timed events and prizes for the best drivers and groups. This made it a bit competitive which added to the fun experience. Everyone I met there was so excited to be there. In fact, only 3/4 of the class even owned Porsches. All were Porsche enthusiasts through and through. We drank a lot of beer and wine the 3 nights we stayed and had some late evenings. All a great time. I don't think I've had so much fun since I was a kid!@

I had an amazing time, our team won the skid pad competition and there was a great amount of camaraderie.

In the end, they gave you a video of your laps around the track with a camera view out the front, internally on the driver showing the tach and speedometer.

Highly recommended!!
 
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