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Old Jun 6, 2010 | 05:12 AM
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Same dilemna with choosing a car. TT vs 430

Appreciate the analysis.
 

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Old Jun 6, 2010 | 07:40 AM
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Great write up! Having read this makes the wait for my new TTS coupe (also GT silver) almost unbearable. It's on a ship somewhere in the Atlantic. I suspect that after my TTS arrives, I'll be spending a lot less time on the Forum and more time driving. I'm glad to read your comparison the F430, which, together with the Lambo, was a car that I considered before ordering the TTS. After my disappointment with the ZR1, I can tell you that owning a supercar that's not reliable is very frustrating. What's the point if it doesn't run right?

Congratulations, and please post photos of your new TT cab!
 
Old Jun 6, 2010 | 12:19 PM
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I have had a similar experience. My wife wanted a 997.2 TT Cab and I ordered a TTS Cab with an August delivery date.. However, she found 997.2 TT Cab at the dealer she really liked so we bought it and with considerable reluctance cancelled the S order.

For years I have owned Ferrari's my last being a 430 Spider which I recently sold. I am on the short list with my dealer for the 458. But I must say the TT Cab really has blown me away. The car is a rocket ship and at the same time a GT which my wife drives and enjoys. it provides all types of performance at whatever level of comfort you want. My only criticism is though the exhaust sound is much improved it still needs to be a little more aggressive.

That cannot be said of a Ferrari. it is loud, flashy and is a great deal of fun to drive. Yet at times this really is a drawback. Taking a several hundred mile trip in a Ferrari is not what it was designed for. it is a great weekend fun car but everyday driving is not its forte.

However, Ferrari is getting better. But honestly after driving the TT Cab (I really did not want to like it) I am considering whether I decline to order the 458 when I get the call to order one.
 
Old Jun 7, 2010 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr_jitsu
Here is the plan: 2112 there will be no TT, right, but a new model introduced in 2113.

Hopefully that will mean that the price for a 2111 will come down
2112, huh? Either the good doc has found the secret to eternal life, or he's a closet Rush fan.....
 
Old Jun 7, 2010 | 02:00 PM
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Where is CT are you? I lived in Hamden, CT for a bit as well as Poughquag, NY and I know a bunch of fun roads to elevate your HR.

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Originally Posted by DJ23
Great write up. I have to say that I wish we had such a rode out here in CT. The only difference I find is that the suspension in sport mode isn't so earth shattering. In fact I think it adds to the overall sportiness and feel of the car. And sport plus is a different animal all into itself. Enjoy and keep breaking her in. I'm at 1600 miles and trying to find additional time to log as many miles as I can.

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Old Oct 10, 2010 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by The Ape
As promised, here's my impressions after 1200 miles of driving.

I picked up the car (997.2 PDK Cab) a week ago and decided to take her out for a little drive two days ago......well, it ended up being a 12 hour excursion.

A little background: This is my 5th 911 variant and believe it or not, my 3rd 997! I had a 997S Coupe 6 speed in 2005, I had an 08' 997TT Cab 6 speed as well. My first two 911's were a 99' 996 Cab 6 speed and a 2000' Cab Tip.

From 2001 (divorce) till I bought my first 997 I was without Porsche : (

On Dec 31 2006 I bought my first Ferrari. 2006 F430 Coupe F1! I drove it into the ground.....27K miles in two years. It was my daily driver. I finally couldn't stand the CONSTANT trips to the shop and the fact that I was becoming good friends with the ALL CITY TOW guys....It was a Lemon.
When it drove right, it was amazing. So much so that I have missed it everyday since I sold it a year ago......

UNTIL NOW....


About two weeks ago I said to the wife. "The Turbo just sits in the garage, you never drive it so Im selling it".....It was supposed to be her "fun" car. Since I had the 430 and was obsessed with it, she wanted her dream car "911 Turbo Cab 6 speed".....I said fine, they are brilliant cars.

Why sell it?
Well, I sadly never bonded with the 08' TT. I just didn't enjoy driving it, felt unsafe pushing the car on turns, and in general I just thought it was boring compared to my 430.

Anyhow, I did my homework and decided that I needed a 997.2 with PTV or PVT (whatever it's called) and I needed PDK.

I fell in love with the PDK in my Panamera 4S that I picked up in November and when I found out that Paddles would be offered in the new Turbo I was happy. I like the buttons on the Panamera PDK but paddles make sense on a 911.

I found a car with all the important equipment (to me) on the ground. I took it around the block and new instantly that I would buy it. I traded in the 08' for the new one. That was a week ago.


DRIVING: This Thursday morning 10:00am. The wife and I put the top down, hit the Pacific Coast Hwy and head north. As a joke I said, "Lets drive to Monterey and back".....She agrees! OK, lets go......

We drove almost to Carmel and decided to turn around at 4pm. For those of you that don't know (I didn't and Im a native Californian), some of the most scenic and gorgeous driving in the world is up the California coast.
It was hot, sunny and stunningly beautiful.......Top down the whole way.

The best part of the trip is a series of twisting mountain roads along the Pacific Ocean that go for miles and miles. It was epic! Once the car hit the 600 mile mark and had been running for a good 3 hours I really let it rip.....WOW!

I WAS SO BLOWN AWAY BY THE POWER! This car is brutally quick and had so much power in reserve that it feels endless. The steering is precise and on point, the breaking is perfect, and the PDK.......The PDK with paddles is so perfect in that car!

The handling is so much better than my 08' TT that It almost feels like a new variant all together. In this car I feel like it's on rails where in the 08' I always felt like the tail would kick out at the wrong times. The new TT feels as balanced as a mid-engined car to me. It's that good!

In normal, sport, and sport plus the car has VERY different dynamics. It's so cool to be able to dial up the perfect setting on the fly. The most common setting is Sport with the suspension set to normal. On really smooth roads Sport Plus is really fun, but on most roads it'll knock your teeth out of your head.

The PDK is just about perfect. There were moments when I with I had a higher rev to work with like the F430, but it was only once in a while when I wish I could have downshifted to 2nd from 3rd but the car wouldn't let me.
I run into this in my Panamera as well. I think after 2 years of driving a car that redlines at 9000 I got confused : )

On the drive home I got to really feel what this car can do. I am honestly shocked at how well this car drives in EVERY situation. From rolling along at 15 mph in traffic to pushing the limits of traction on a mountain pass the car just performs perfectly. The linear power delivery is like nothing else I have ever driven. The way the car can carve up a canyon road with such ease is simply mind blowing.

After 12 hours of driving, a sore lower back and being just plain exhausted....I hopped in the car yesterday and put another 200 miles on her! YEP, Im addicted! I FINALLY don't miss my F430 and don't need to look back! I have all the fun of the F430 BUT with AWD, MUCH more power, a reliable and perfect Transmission, and Porsche quality.


Oh yeah, I actually like the exhaust note in the new TT! It has a MUCH cooler sound than the last one.

That's all for now.
Ape
I live in the pac pal aswell i believe i have taken pics of your F430 passing through the village before
 
Old Oct 11, 2010 | 07:08 AM
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A few more stories like this and I don't have to think of getting a Turbo anymore... I'll just HAVE to get one .

Any more insight details on which road you took exactly, ie starting point etc?
 
Old Oct 11, 2010 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by getz
Gentleman,
Please treat your PDK Turbos with respect, so that in 4 years I can trade my 2007 Turbo for one. I don't mind feeding off the crumbs that fall out of your mouths.
-Getz
+1 I too will be in the market for your "crumbs".
So please forget you have your TT coupe in the garage and take the beater Cayenne S to work...
 
Old Oct 11, 2010 | 09:11 AM
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Ape,
Really liked your story. That's a section of road on my list to enjoy too. Judging by your enjoyment of the TT.2, it's looking like the wife is definitely toy-less...LOL
 
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