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Old May 17, 2010 | 02:02 PM
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I get my VP 109 at Ace Auto in Huntington Beach. Cost $66 per 5 gallons. Huge diffenence between Pump 100 ans 109. Once you go 109 its hard to go back.
 
Old May 17, 2010 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by robertp
Cost $66 per 5 gallons.
And that $13 bucks a gallon gets you exactly what???
 
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A lot more power.
 
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I use 94 or 93 octane up here and the performance is awesome. Not sure how much of a difference it makes.
 
Old May 17, 2010 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Siglo Man
Do most ECU tunes actually detect higher octane levels and adjust accordingly? Seems like a pretty advanced feature or is it just an extension of a feature the 997 already has in it's software? Wonder how accurate they are. Would be a shame to be spending extra $ for quality fuel and not getting 100% out of it.
If you have the race file option, you will benefit 100% from the race fuel. You can even use the race file on the 76 100 octane, prob will run on the lower maps. Get the MS 109 and you will be able to tell the difference right away. My advice, save your money for the ms 109. I get it at a shop in Ontario. Get VP MS 109, use the hand held switcher to change to race file and you will be spoiled for life. Trust Me!
 
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I have a pure stock 2007 Turbo, manual. Will using this race fuel provide any benefits or does it only help with cars that have been modified?
 
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Originally Posted by 997TTurbo
I have a pure stock 2007 Turbo, manual. Will using this race fuel provide any benefits or does it only help with cars that have been modified?
Yes it will, compared to pure stock running 91 or 93.
The easy but long way, fill up with race gas from almost empty and run car for a while for the ECU to detect the better fuel grade and adapt the fuel/timing maps it.
The harder but quicker way, after filling as above, remove the battery leads and reconnect after about a minute or two and reconnect. The ECU will detect the better fuel in a much shorter time.
Both ways, you will be running the highest fuel/timing maps on tap in the stock ECU.
 
Old Jun 24, 2010 | 02:23 PM
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Good question Siglo,

Arrived last night from a 2400 mile trip and I had the opportunity to test several gas octanes, including 89!!! The only superior gas we have in Montana is the 91 and tried to run the car with it throughout the trip, but did some 93 fillups as well. All I have to say is that with 91 the car averaged 400 miles per tank. With the 93 only about 360 the most. Unfortunately I had to get some 89 as well as most South Dakota small fillup stations don't have anything better. Called the dealership to make sure that 89 is acceptable and they assured me that the car will adjust instantly to the octane. They were right as it drove without a cough or any performance differences. So, I guess my answer is simple, I have no other choice but the 91
 
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I mix 100 & 91 to get 95 octane. Fuel in AZ in poor at best and typically the rated octane is not the true octane (it's lower). I mix fuel to get 95 octane and hope it's enough to get the 570hp EVOMsit tune provides at 93 octane.
 
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93 with injection of VP 109/water under heavy boost, great combo
 
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Sorry to kinda hijack but what about E85? Ive seen some amazing results on other turbo cars with an improved fuel system and a good tune.

E85 is supposed to have an octane rating of 105, you just need more of it (about 30% more than gasoline per volume) and is a hell of alot cheaper than race gas.

I only ask cause there is not many posts on E85on this forum.
 
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using 95 PON +Torco Accelerator = crazy performance
 
Old Jun 26, 2010 | 06:00 PM
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Toluene...

here's something may sound like snake oil but actually works...used for years.

LUCAS OIL LUBRICANT...throw a bottle of this in on almost empty...drive to fuel station...fill up on 93.....hold on to your shorts......
 
Old Jun 27, 2010 | 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Serpentene
Toluene...

here's something may sound like snake oil but actually works...used for years.

LUCAS OIL LUBRICANT...throw a bottle of this in on almost empty...drive to fuel station...fill up on 93.....hold on to your shorts......
That stuff contains MMT, a manganese based anti-knock agent. I would stay far away from anything that contains MMT since prolonged use will leave manganese (metal) deposits in your engine and deteriorate spark plugs, O2 sensors, etc...The use of MMT could potential void your warranty.
 
Old Jun 27, 2010 | 10:12 AM
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My friend you are mistaken. There is absolutely NO solvents or alcohol in the treatment. Its a fuel line and upper cylinder lubricant which increases your MPG considerably...and adds a $hit load of power. Enough to make you giddy.
 


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