I dont know the car so I dont know if there is anything wrong with the car but I have heard these responses from other customers as well that have tried softronic.

If you have a 100k to wire me right now I will go buy a 997T, flash it and put an exhaust on it and do all the trap speeds right now.

Unfortunately I didn't have access to one this week. It's easy to expect this this to be done immediately when you own one.

 

Matt, if the wheels are different, then the flow dynamics of the turbo have changed. Deployment of the vanes will need to be changed, A/F ratios will change and need to be adjusted with reprogramming. Nearly everything about the original tune will have to be adjusted to compensate for the difference in flow.

 

Damn, you guys need to chill for a bit and take a breath

 

like I said bbywyu I don't know much about the upgraded turbos because our clients with APR software don't need it. After doing a little more research it seems that the vains are completely different and may cause the car to over boost. So as I'm getting more and more information on these turbos its leading me to believe that It's just not going to work.

If anyone in the tri state area CT/NY/NJ area with stock turbos that wants a free demo please shoot me a PM or email.

 

I would think APR would help you on that one. After all this is a Porsche forum. Gotta pay to play.

As I said before you will just be goofing around testing an APR tune on an upgraded vtg set-up. Just the opposite will happen. The car will not overboost it will underboost.

 

Someone already bought their car, other wise they would be out getting me 60-130's right now. I will have them soon for you guys not to worry, we're not going anywhere

I will see this to the end!

 

We're all a bunch of hens in a henhouse clucking at each other.

 

I...cluck...resent...cluck...that.

 

Sounds a great idea . I just dont understand why Skand is so shy of doing that especially as there is an obvious disparity. If it were me i'd go there straight away and have it all checked out to be sure. But then again i'm not looking to hide anything .

[quote=GMP - Matthew;2879214]So we are finally clear on one thing. The clutch needs changing. And you may well be right that the clutch will need doing with the others...i'll wait and see on that. If i wind up needing a clutch you may see me yet. Btw does your stage 2 have a segmented clutch disc? I recall seeing that on a recent thread where someone showed a few pics of the stage 2 they bought. Are all stage 2 kits identical?

Bogg, Skand says he's done data logs and piwis etc, even a mechanical gauge yet to this very day he has chosen to slink off into the night instead of providing any formal hard copy on that. He also doesnt want to go any where near the APR agent to have his tune checked either. Now I wonder why that is (DOH...) . (C'mon Skand....the time has come.)

We all know that APR's tune has done away with the sports chrono function which includes the 1.2 reading on the gauge as well, as it uses only the one tune setting on both normal and SC modes so that means there is only ever going to be a max reading shown of 1 bar or 15psi on the gauge on either setting because of that. Its obvious that is exactly what Skand has based his entire claim of 1 bar on. And it's also why he doesn't want to clear up his dubious claim with the dura data log he's told everyone he's done, so my guess is if he shows it now and it shows 18 to 20lbs he'll come undone good and proper. Very messy...Then there is also the oil sample analysis as well which he is also reluctant to show anyone now. As i said in my last post to Skand.....he's completely blown his credibility with his story and up until such time he provides formal proof his credibility will remain shot to ribbons (on everything).

 

Skand i meant what i said before. Times really aren't everything to me and I don't need to have the fastest time to feel good about myself. Everyone is different and I respect that. You are quite correct in saying that perfomance is important to me but its not everything. For me it's knowing the car is also having a good time and that everything I have put on it is working in harmony. One day i'll get around to buying a vbox of my own (and scoot you a few times) but will do so moreso for the novelty rather than the necessity. I have other interests other than just my car you know (love my surfing etc). Anyway why don't you just do yourself a favour and clear up the mess you have created with all this talk of yours....its for your own good mate, not mine. And if that includes fessing up that you never did the dura dat log or mech gauge or oil sample analysis then dont worry about it. We'll forgive you. Better to come clean now...pick yourself up...dust yourself off and move on from this mess. You'll be the better for it .

[quote=GMP - Matthew;2879342]Yeah something is not right there. Just for good measure I will check to see what our car does in the stock file as far as boost pressure it just to see what the difference in boost is.

See Skand...no one is buying what you have said. Its for your own good mate....so get it done and put it to bed.


......shouldn't matter as the software should only pull the boost pressure (18-20) it was designed to do.

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Again Skand....18 to 20....not 15.

 

Very funny Christian . You put the APR jar on the table knowing there were plenty out there wanting to rip the lid of it and then you've gone and slid out of sight ever since posting this thread up. Very clever. And chill for a bit and take a breath? We are nearing the finishing post now so no lying down just yet .

Thanks for seeing it through Matthew. This must be a very tough and trying excercise for you guys but it'll be great to see some quality data and answers.

And why did they sell their 997tt? Seems very odd why APR jettisoned their only real connection with the Porsche fraternity. Having a car has would have had its distinct marketing advantages imo. It seems the APR guys much prefer their Vee Dub's and Audi's which is evidently where their true heart and expertise is. Maybe this Posche 997tt tune was just a fleeting experiment? It was so not Porsche to do away with the functionality of the SC mode.

Im not sure about us all being clucking hens TT.

I think there are a few of us foxes currently in the APR henhouse which have got all the chickens clucking and pecking at one another.

 

Customer of other tunes need to stay out of this freaking thread. You made your point ... asked for some info ... now wait for it.

I swear.

 

Speed21,
Once more it is obvious that you hate the fact that my car is faster than yours even with stock VTGs...
I clearly stated that APR Greece dealer and myself are good friends and we even did the gauge test together.My car has been set with 4 programs,normal,stage1,race and vallet in this order...(1,2,3,4)I speak with Kostas a few times a week and we even race together other 997TTs here with different software...So stop saying that i dont go to the dealer to check whether my car is APR flashed...I asked you to call him to verify that to you but you denied...Accept the fact that you are (much) slower than me...If someone needs 60-130 times for a 6speed car,we have a car here...it has only APR flash and switzer exhaust and did 6,0 60-130...(but with 2 shifts if i recall correct...)He is member here (madsex343) and a very old friend of mine...I will ask him to report his times...

 

Skan youre cracking me up with all this....seriously. When i read this i nearly died laughing. Youre an absolute classic man.. theres no doubt about it. Please ...no more.

 

" Creating stories " Gee, the Promotive web site refers interested parties to these blogs to hear stories about their product. At any rate, I dont have times either, so we are even on that one. I am very happy with my car, so we are even on that one.

As for as reliability, I now have 13k on my APR tune. Have just now replaced the clutch to a SACH 2.5. I did so because there was slipping on WOT and heavy aggressive driving at the track. The FW was not in bad shape. I am just now breaking in the clutch.

So I dont know where we stand on that one, how many miles on your tune? We APR users are few but based on 13k and going strong I feel we too are on safe ground.

Lastly, APR does have 2 tunes. They have a tune for stock exhaust and a 2nd tune for " test pipes ". This being for an upgraded exhaust. I do not know the difference between these tunes. I do know that when I upgraded my exhaust to FVD my car was reflashed, excluding a nominal labor fee of 50$, by APR for free.