exclusivity-PDK vs Manual
#1
exclusivity-PDK vs Manual
Ok guys, here is a thought. I am thinking about upgrading my 997S for a '10 or '11 tt with PDK. I have test driven the PDK and I know I will like it but after yrs of rowing through a 6 spd on our local mountain roads, I know I'll miss the latter. When my wife found out she was thrilled. Something like "you mean I can just put it in drive, and drive it around the block. I mean I would just take it down the street". Hmmmmmm. Anyone else have similar concerns? And my soon to be driving teenage kids who can find the key on the weekend, put her in drive and go. There might be something to be said for being the only one in the house who can drive a manual tranny...
Jim
Jim
#2
Regardless of manual vs PDK, a teen plus a 911 is a monumentally bad idea.
On October 31, 2006, Orange County teen Nikki Catsouras had an argument with her father. When Mr. Catsouras left for work, his daughter “borrowed” his Porsche 911. Approaching a tollbooth, Catsouras rear-ended a Honda at 70 mph. The California Highway Patrol took photographs of the gruesome results, the photos were leaked and went viral. Catsouras sued the police for invasion of privacy. Lost in the shuffle: why was Miss Catsouras–a young, inexperienced driver— legally entitled to drive the Porsche?
#7
Eek. I remember this pics well from another forum when they first came out. They even had the bad taste to leak pics of the body. Not a pretty sight... I'll have to remember those when my soon to be daughter asks to drive my car one day.....
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#8
I used to always get a manual for my "special vehicle". First because I enjoyed it and second because it insured that no one else in my family would drive it.
After a while I started to feel guilty that I was the only one in my family (wife, son, daughter) who could drive it and in order to justify getting more and more expensive "special vehicles" started to get automatics so theoretically they could try it.
After my family realized how **** and crazy I am about my cars they didnt want to drive it anyway for fear of my reaction if anything happened.
Currently have 997.2 TT with PDK and love it so everyone is happy.
After a while I started to feel guilty that I was the only one in my family (wife, son, daughter) who could drive it and in order to justify getting more and more expensive "special vehicles" started to get automatics so theoretically they could try it.
After my family realized how **** and crazy I am about my cars they didnt want to drive it anyway for fear of my reaction if anything happened.
Currently have 997.2 TT with PDK and love it so everyone is happy.
#9
The 6 speed does offer some exclusivity from the view of my world. Seems 90+% of on the lot Turbos are all PDK now. I often have momentary regrets about getting a 6 speed instead of PDK, then I get behind the wheel and instantly remember the joy of driving a 6 speed beast.
#10
The manual will definately be more exclusive, and might even command a premium in the used market on down the road. I imagine all the high-end manufacturers will eventual go almost exclusively to a PDK-like transmission-- it just generates faster times, and better fuel economy (CAFE rating) numbers. That means a manual willb e rare (as well as more fun to drive, but definately slower)
My Ferrari took six months to find and get -- one of the last two dozen made with a manual, and the reason I got a 430 and not the 458 (well, that and the wacko interior) - Ferrari from 2010 on is exclusively either their single- or dual-clutch electronci sequential transmission depending on the model - no manual clutches, period. My dealer told me there is already a big premium for the M6 developing in the used market.
Still, you really have to be okay with driving a car that will be noticeably slower. If that bothers you you need to pick the PDK - it is not just the faster shift time, note, but also that fact that most manufactuers use more ratios, too: when you shift in 5 hundreds of a second you don't give up much time through the 1/4 mile shifting, so seven, eight, and probably eventually even more ratios just make sense.
My Ferrari took six months to find and get -- one of the last two dozen made with a manual, and the reason I got a 430 and not the 458 (well, that and the wacko interior) - Ferrari from 2010 on is exclusively either their single- or dual-clutch electronci sequential transmission depending on the model - no manual clutches, period. My dealer told me there is already a big premium for the M6 developing in the used market.
Still, you really have to be okay with driving a car that will be noticeably slower. If that bothers you you need to pick the PDK - it is not just the faster shift time, note, but also that fact that most manufactuers use more ratios, too: when you shift in 5 hundreds of a second you don't give up much time through the 1/4 mile shifting, so seven, eight, and probably eventually even more ratios just make sense.
#14
"This might be my last chance to get a 6 speed" is a good excuse now that you've let the cat out of the bag.
I'm looking for an 08 or 09 turbo cab to replace my 996 c2 cab. I'll be 51 next month and I'm getting a manual - because I'm going to enjoy rowing as long as I can.
Some day it will all be over and manual transmissions will be gone from sports cars. Or - I won't be able to drive one. But until that time, I'm clinging to my glory days.
I'm looking for an 08 or 09 turbo cab to replace my 996 c2 cab. I'll be 51 next month and I'm getting a manual - because I'm going to enjoy rowing as long as I can.
Some day it will all be over and manual transmissions will be gone from sports cars. Or - I won't be able to drive one. But until that time, I'm clinging to my glory days.