Which is the best German-based tuner?
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Which is the best German-based tuner?
Which German-based company is the most respectable and popular tuner (performance-wise) for Porsche 911 models?
I only know of some... if you'd like to contribute, please do:
SpeedART
TechArt
Cargraphic
9ff
Vorsteiner
Roock
Gemballa
Ruf
I only know of some... if you'd like to contribute, please do:
SpeedART
TechArt
Cargraphic
9ff
Vorsteiner
Roock
Gemballa
Ruf
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Manthey, Edo-Competition, RS-Tuning...also a great European tuner is Sportec, which is Swiss. I think all of these carry a good reputation as a tuner, or at least racing pedigree in some cases. Btw, i don't think that Vorsteiner is a German tuner, but rather an American brand which specializes in cosmetic conversions and accessories.
For engine tuning, however, all-around i don't think you can beat American tuners, especially considering the value of what level of performance you get for the price. I'm confident that you could work with some of the tuners represented on this forum and build a dominant, world-class sports car that would cost exorbitant amounts of money to replicate with European tuners.
For engine tuning, however, all-around i don't think you can beat American tuners, especially considering the value of what level of performance you get for the price. I'm confident that you could work with some of the tuners represented on this forum and build a dominant, world-class sports car that would cost exorbitant amounts of money to replicate with European tuners.
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Manthey, Edo-Competition, RS-Tuning...also a great European tuner is Sportec, which is Swiss. I think all of these carry a good reputation as a tuner, or at least racing pedigree in some cases. Btw, i don't think that Vorsteiner is a German tuner, but rather an American brand which specializes in cosmetic conversions and accessories.
For engine tuning, however, all-around i don't think you can beat American tuners, especially considering the value of what level of performance you get for the price. I'm confident that you could work with some of the tuners represented on this forum and build a dominant, world-class sports car that would cost exorbitant amounts of money to replicate with European tuners.
For engine tuning, however, all-around i don't think you can beat American tuners, especially considering the value of what level of performance you get for the price. I'm confident that you could work with some of the tuners represented on this forum and build a dominant, world-class sports car that would cost exorbitant amounts of money to replicate with European tuners.
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If you insist on a German/European tuner, then I agree with what Mark stated above.
RS-Tuning is probably among the best in the world, money no object.
Having said that, however, and perhaps off topic:
We are not in the US. We are in the Middle East.
(We meaning myself and a large number of fellow Porsche enthusiasts.)
Obviously, when we look at modifying our cars, we do not get the added advantage of proximity to US tuners, such as our friends who are in the states.
So the proximity factor is not taken into consideration, despite the huge advantage that it brings.
Also, Europe is closer to us than the US.
Despite that, about 90% of us choose to work with US tuners.
Why? Several reasons:
1- Value for money... no need to explain that further.
2- Customer service: Working with the folks stateside has, in my experience, been a far more easy going, friendly and customer oriented experience than when working with Europe
(There are two exceptions that I know of: Europipe (truly elite product and customer service) and European companies with representation in the States when you work with the Stateside dealers such as Rhonda at FVD (Although I haven't personally dealt with her, everyone I know who worked with Rhonda came away very happy with the customer service provided.)
3- Trouble shooting and reaction to problems: most US tuners have proven to be excellent at taking responsibility when problems occur and doing their level best to correct the situation and do right by their clients.
I am personally aware of many cases involving some European/German tuners were less than impressive with their reactions to problems.
One case, the people at the company in question stopped answering/returning calls and hung their customer out completely to dry.
Another case involving a different company had to go to litigation before the company owned up to the problem and resolved it.
In short, while companies such as Manthey and RS-Tuning are outstanding in their own right if you can afford them, US tuners are slowly but surely taking tuners across the world to task.
Kudos to companies such as (in no particular order and by far less than complete, only for examples of outstanding value and customer service):
1- Softronic
2- Protomotive
3- TPC Racing
4- Sharkwerks
5- Champion
6- EVOMS
7- AWE
8- Prototech
9- Vivid Racing
10- Etc...
Thank you for the choices and value you bring!
RS-Tuning is probably among the best in the world, money no object.
Having said that, however, and perhaps off topic:
We are not in the US. We are in the Middle East.
(We meaning myself and a large number of fellow Porsche enthusiasts.)
Obviously, when we look at modifying our cars, we do not get the added advantage of proximity to US tuners, such as our friends who are in the states.
So the proximity factor is not taken into consideration, despite the huge advantage that it brings.
Also, Europe is closer to us than the US.
Despite that, about 90% of us choose to work with US tuners.
Why? Several reasons:
1- Value for money... no need to explain that further.
2- Customer service: Working with the folks stateside has, in my experience, been a far more easy going, friendly and customer oriented experience than when working with Europe
(There are two exceptions that I know of: Europipe (truly elite product and customer service) and European companies with representation in the States when you work with the Stateside dealers such as Rhonda at FVD (Although I haven't personally dealt with her, everyone I know who worked with Rhonda came away very happy with the customer service provided.)
3- Trouble shooting and reaction to problems: most US tuners have proven to be excellent at taking responsibility when problems occur and doing their level best to correct the situation and do right by their clients.
I am personally aware of many cases involving some European/German tuners were less than impressive with their reactions to problems.
One case, the people at the company in question stopped answering/returning calls and hung their customer out completely to dry.
Another case involving a different company had to go to litigation before the company owned up to the problem and resolved it.
In short, while companies such as Manthey and RS-Tuning are outstanding in their own right if you can afford them, US tuners are slowly but surely taking tuners across the world to task.
Kudos to companies such as (in no particular order and by far less than complete, only for examples of outstanding value and customer service):
1- Softronic
2- Protomotive
3- TPC Racing
4- Sharkwerks
5- Champion
6- EVOMS
7- AWE
8- Prototech
9- Vivid Racing
10- Etc...
Thank you for the choices and value you bring!
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I would stay from RS Tuning/CG after the $22k RS/CG stage III 997 GT2 which has ( Exhaust with high-flow cats, Modifed turbos, High-flow air filters and ECU tune ) plus CTR I/C
got beat stage 2 997tt
take a look
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oweuZDW_Uls
got beat stage 2 997tt
take a look
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oweuZDW_Uls