Differences between 997 GT2 and GT2RS
#16
03-30-2011, 07:29 PM
Wouldnt surprise me. I see this on many occassions with certain engine components. Often different numbers are used simply to justify a different pricing regime when in fact the items are identical. This is usually referenced (or cross refernced) in the description in the OEM's (not P's) catalogue.
#17
03-30-2011, 09:04 PM
For that price difference, you get a lot more than just power.
Significant suspension upgrade.
Significant weight reduction.
An excellent LWFW/clutch combination.
...and you are going to need more than a flash to get a 997 GT2 to match a GT2 RS.
bob
#18
03-31-2011, 01:31 PM
100k doesn't justify it IMO . Maybe for the price people will be taking pics for a year. But that rappers off too. . Trust me I have a gt2 and nearly bout a rs. But I spend 10k on rsr parts for suspension and had bbi install it and and now it's much better an the rs. I have 68 mm turbos and all this cost me no more than 35k. So for 175k I have a 700 plus hp car. Better suspension. And I even added the rs rear and led as well as the front flares and front spoiler. All in all I am really happy. And will be tracking it Sunday with a rs. we will see.
I have a few parts Im thinking of getting to complete the looks and that's side vents. Cf hood and so e interior parts. And also decided to get a slr and still keep my gt2. Tahrs my 2 cents. And the weight is an easy thing to get rid of
I have a few parts Im thinking of getting to complete the looks and that's side vents. Cf hood and so e interior parts. And also decided to get a slr and still keep my gt2. Tahrs my 2 cents. And the weight is an easy thing to get rid of
Last edited by gt2urbo; 03-31-2011 at 01:33 PM.
#19
03-31-2011, 06:05 PM
The original Porsche design and limited production number make gt2rs a very exclusive and special.
Last edited by slawek; 03-31-2011 at 09:45 PM.
#20
03-31-2011, 09:08 PM
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I'm not arguing that the GT2RS is special or desirable.
Just saying that from my standpoint a modded GT2 is a viable "poor man's" alternative. If you can call any GT2 a poor man's car
Just saying that from my standpoint a modded GT2 is a viable "poor man's" alternative. If you can call any GT2 a poor man's car
#21
07-07-2011, 12:16 PM
There are many differences, the turbos run 22 psi rather than 20, the intercoolers are bigger, the intake system is of the expansion type like on the late model 3.8 liter Porsche engines and the engine has a single mass flywheel. It has central locking wheels, more soundproofing has been removed, there is more use of aluminum, more carbon fiber parts and the plastic parts are lighter. Muffler is titanium, as are the exhaust tips. Front track is 1/2" wider, a lithion ion battery is available, door storage pockets removed.
Unfortunately, there is no produce information brochure available from Porsche about this car.
Unfortunately, there is no produce information brochure available from Porsche about this car.
#22
07-07-2011, 12:21 PM
There are many differences, the turbos run 22 psi rather than 20, the intercoolers are bigger, the intake system is of the expansion type like on the late model 3.8 liter Porsche engines and the engine has a single mass flywheel. It has central locking wheels, more soundproofing has been removed, there is more use of aluminum, more carbon fiber parts and the plastic parts are lighter. Muffler is titanium, as are the exhaust tips. Front track is 1/2" wider, a lithion ion battery is available, door storage pockets removed.
Unfortunately, there is no produce information brochure available from Porsche about this car.
Unfortunately, there is no produce information brochure available from Porsche about this car.
As far as "plastic parts are lighter," the vast majority of shared plastic parts between the GT2 and GT2 RS have the same part number...not sure how they could be lighter if they are the same.
#24
07-07-2011, 12:46 PM
I think you are correct about the expansion intake, which has a different part number for the GT2, but shares the same part number for the 997.2 Turbos. They all use expansion intake design, but I think they flow better in the newer generation turbos and RS. Same goes with the intercoolers.
bob
bob
#25
07-07-2011, 02:59 PM
Here is a quote from a web page:
Lightweight features developed for the Porsche 911 GT2 RS include: use of lighter aluminum transverse arms and diagonal struts in the rear suspension, carbon fiber reinforced front lid and rear spoiler, polycarbonate rear window and side windows, lightweight engine cover, lighter single-mass flywheel, lighter lithium-ion battery.
Dynamic enhancements include: new charge air intercooler, metal support bearings complete with ball joints in the front suspension; lightweight door panels, wider front track, turbo boost increased to 1.6 bar from 1.4 bar, wider front track with wider tires (same dimensions as GT3 RS).
Lightweight features developed for the Porsche 911 GT2 RS include: use of lighter aluminum transverse arms and diagonal struts in the rear suspension, carbon fiber reinforced front lid and rear spoiler, polycarbonate rear window and side windows, lightweight engine cover, lighter single-mass flywheel, lighter lithium-ion battery.
Dynamic enhancements include: new charge air intercooler, metal support bearings complete with ball joints in the front suspension; lightweight door panels, wider front track, turbo boost increased to 1.6 bar from 1.4 bar, wider front track with wider tires (same dimensions as GT3 RS).
#26
07-08-2011, 10:26 AM
Titanium
There are many differences, the turbos run 22 psi rather than 20, the intercoolers are bigger, the intake system is of the expansion type like on the late model 3.8 liter Porsche engines and the engine has a single mass flywheel. It has central locking wheels, more soundproofing has been removed, there is more use of aluminum, more carbon fiber parts and the plastic parts are lighter. Muffler is titanium, as are the exhaust tips. Front track is 1/2" wider, a lithion ion battery is available, door storage pockets removed.
Unfortunately, there is no produce information brochure available from Porsche about this car.
Unfortunately, there is no produce information brochure available from Porsche about this car.
#27
07-08-2011, 11:28 AM
R63
From another angle,
On Cars.com there are:
In case I hit it big , I need to plan...
On Cars.com there are:
- a new RS for ~$273,000,
- an '09 (600 miles) for ~$182,000 and
- an '08 (16 miles)for ~$180,000.
In case I hit it big , I need to plan...
Have you ever posted any pics of the R63 DD?! If not, Please do!
#28
07-08-2011, 04:07 PM
100k doesn't justify it IMO . Maybe for the price people will be taking pics for a year. But that rappers off too. . Trust me I have a gt2 and nearly bout a rs. But I spend 10k on rsr parts for suspension and had bbi install it and and now it's much better an the rs. I have 68 mm turbos and all this cost me no more than 35k. So for 175k I have a 700 plus hp car. Better suspension. And I even added the rs rear and led as well as the front flares and front spoiler. All in all I am really happy. And will be tracking it Sunday with a rs. we will see.
I have a few parts Im thinking of getting to complete the looks and that's side vents. Cf hood and so e interior parts. And also decided to get a slr and still keep my gt2. Tahrs my 2 cents. And the weight is an easy thing to get rid of
I have a few parts Im thinking of getting to complete the looks and that's side vents. Cf hood and so e interior parts. And also decided to get a slr and still keep my gt2. Tahrs my 2 cents. And the weight is an easy thing to get rid of
#29
07-09-2011, 10:17 AM
I think you are correct about the expansion intake, which has a different part number for the GT2, but shares the same part number for the 997.2 Turbos. They all use expansion intake design, but I think they flow better in the newer generation turbos and RS. Same goes with the intercoolers.
bob
bob
#30
07-09-2011, 10:26 AM
The RS is an awesome car...but I am sure the 100K plus difference cannot simply be put in performance numbers, right?
With the price difference between a GT2 and a GT2RS, I am absolutely sure you could make the GT2 just as good/fast as the RS...but, at the end of the day, it is still not an RS.
With the price difference between a GT2 and a GT2RS, I am absolutely sure you could make the GT2 just as good/fast as the RS...but, at the end of the day, it is still not an RS.