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Old May 26, 2011 | 06:18 PM
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Manufacturing in the US or Taiwan?
 
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Looks like they certainly work. Nice job.
 
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Nice work. Looks like higher limits too be reached soon.
 
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Congrats, that's great to see that they improve flow. Will this translate to more hp or will it just be for a better powerband and better utilize existing hp #'s.
 
Old May 27, 2011 | 07:19 AM
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Manufactured in Pompano Beach, Florida, USA...

...about 200 yards from where I'm sitting right now.
 
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Originally Posted by Tom@Champion
OK, the results are in, and we couldn't be happier!! Below are two charts that show the flow results of our Werks1 Carbon intake manifold versus both the factory 997 Turbo and the factory GT2.

All the flow tests were conducted by Wilson Manifolds (http://www.wilsonmanifolds.com) who are fortunately local to us in Fort Lauderdale. They have the equipment to do proper testing.

The results are below. The factory GT2 ended up flowing the worst, at an average of 252.1 CFM at a test pressure of 27. The stock 997 Turbo manifold flowed an average of 265.86 CFM at a test pressure of 27. And lastly, our prototype Werks1 Carbon manifold flowed an average of 283.46 CFM at a test pressure of 27.



 
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It will be interesting to see what the yield in performance is with these new manifolds...will increased flow translate into more power?

Porsche has pushed a lot of marketing and hype around their new intake manifolds, which first showed up on the 997GT2, and have since replaced the traditional manifolds and are used in the GT2RS and the new 997.2TT/TTS. A new intake manifold design includes a longer distributor pipe, smaller diameter, and shorter intake pipes.

The manifold design is supposed to increase engine output by forcing incoming air into the expansion phase as it enters the combustion chambers, thereby cooling the temperature, dropping the air/fuel temperature to improve performance. (Typically, a intake manifold forces air to the inlet ports while it is in a compressed phase...increases air volume, but also higher air temperature.) To offset the decreased volume with the expansion manifold design, Porsche increased the boost pressure from the turbos. Part of the performance gain of the GT2RS has to do with the reduction in temperatures over the GT2 with improved ICs.
 
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What's the progress on this beautiful piece of art?
 
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very nice champion mani. Love where this is going, Thats a substantial gain in CFM. Dramatic increase in flowed air, I imagine a weight reduction being constructed in carbon fibre aswell. Cant wait to see more about this.

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I think it's important to make a distinction between flow and temperature.

The GT3 manifold doesn't have to deal with the temperatures created by the compression of the incoming air. Turbo engines do.

So while the GT2 manifold may flow less, it may have an advantage in terms of thermal efficiency in a boosted environment. Additionally, the GT1 heads used in the turbo engines (we're talking 997.1 and prior only rev to 6700 RPM) so that may be a factor.

That's where I think Porsche has compromised with the expansion intake manifold. It may be easy to bolt on the GT3 manifold and get more flow, but that flow be negated with higher temperatures....

Originally Posted by bbywu
It will be interesting to see what the yield in performance is with these new manifolds...will increased flow translate into more power?

Porsche has pushed a lot of marketing and hype around their new intake manifolds, which first showed up on the 997GT2, and have since replaced the traditional manifolds and are used in the GT2RS and the new 997.2TT/TTS. A new intake manifold design includes a longer distributor pipe, smaller diameter, and shorter intake pipes.

The manifold design is supposed to increase engine output by forcing incoming air into the expansion phase as it enters the combustion chambers, thereby cooling the temperature, dropping the air/fuel temperature to improve performance. (Typically, a intake manifold forces air to the inlet ports while it is in a compressed phase...increases air volume, but also higher air temperature.) To offset the decreased volume with the expansion manifold design, Porsche increased the boost pressure from the turbos. Part of the performance gain of the GT2RS has to do with the reduction in temperatures over the GT2 with improved ICs.
 

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amazing product and awesome Carbon Werk! any updates?
 
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