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Old Apr 14, 2012 | 12:18 PM
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Winnilaker, if I could go back in time that is the route I would take. MOST-HUR 997 kit is like $550, that headunit is $750... you can look at the installs some people have done with them, they look great. Little more involving of an install but you are getting a lot more out of it.

The NAV TV guys are an hour or so north of me, too.

Now that I think about it, the Denison unit is only like $400... While I don't think it would actually work alongside the mobridge's bluetooth, it would be interesting to see if the problem still persists with it.

In theory, it should still persist and I'd be wasting my time, but at that price it might be worth a shot
 

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Winnilaker, if I could go back in time that is the route I would take. MOST-HUR 997 kit is like $550, that headunit is $750... you can look at the installs some people have done with them, they look great. Little more involving of an install but you are getting a lot more out of it.
The NAV TV guys are an hour or so north of me, too.

Now that I think about it, the Denison unit is only like $400... While I don't think it would actually work alongside the mobridge's bluetooth, it would be interesting to see if the problem still persists with it.
In theory, it should still persist and I'd be wasting my time, but at that price it might be worth a shot
Ben, yes I think combining Dension Ipod with our Mobridge Bluetooth Phone is the simplest method; I think you should give this a try so I could follow. (You are both younger and more knowledgeable about these mods than me LOL.) I think though the first step is to ask Eric and Bumper Plugs - he is a Dension dealer and should know.

I don't favor changing the head unit (unless for all out audiophile modding) because major electronics modification in this car simply scares me, and also the stock head unit doesn't just control the radio/navigation; somewhere in there is memory setting for the climate control, and deep down some weird tire setting as well (I don't remember exactly where it is, but it's burried in there somewhere).
 

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Old Apr 15, 2012 | 11:35 AM
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I installed a Mobridge in my 08 Cayenne Turbo back in 08 and could never get used to the quirky navigation of the menus, nor could I ever successfully update the firmware.

In my 997 turbo I have been very happy with a Parrot 3100 blutooth and this weekend just installed the Nav-TV OPi-P interface to add an iPod to the car. The interface is much more intuitive, but a tad sluggish when changing songs. I was tempted to swap out the Parrot 3100 to the Parrot 9200 which I have in my pickup truck - fast response, easy navigating menus, but it basically adds iPod to your bluetooth and not to the headunit - all controls are on a thumbwheel that mounts to the steering wheel.
 
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Solution?

Hello,

I have exactly the same problem. A beeping sound in the background clearly audible when changing songs and slow tracks. This is very annoying.

Does anybody found a solution???

My car is a BMW E60 550i iDrive CCC. I installed myself on the glovebox in place of CD Changer. Very easy to install and did all wiring correctly. But I can't get rid of the noise issue.
 
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I got this from mObridge, maybe if enough of call, they will fix it, we all can't be having different issues. the iPod cable seems a little weak of an issue.


"Who was the dealer you originally bought the product from? I'm sorry this occurred, I understand it makes it hard for you as a custoemr.

The problem you are experiencing is possibly due to interference at the iPod cable. If you have the means, try running the iPod cable along a different route from the ABT2010 to the iPod. Other options are looking at shielding the cable, this can be done with after market products.

If you don't have the means to at least reroute the cable, then you can call our support number, and that will put you through to the Support center at Rockford Fosgate, they are our United States distributor. If you can't find our US support number, then you can call Rockford direct.
They will at least be able to point you in the direction of a local dealer who may be able to assist you with the problem.

If it turns out there is a problem with the unit, then you can speak with Rockford Fosgate, and they should be able to help you out with finding a replacement.

Thank you,

mObridge Support.
 
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I already tried with the iPod cable completely outside the glovebox, as also the unit, and no difference. No matter the cable is, the noise level is the same. I also tried with another iPod playing through Aux cable ( so i could pause and listen the noise alone, I even recorded it) and, when i pulled the iPod cable out, the iDrive changed the source to FM after a couple of seconds, but during this time I could hear the noise with no cable, so it seems to me that is not the iPod cable (but there is chance that the aux cable also get the interference).

Anyway, I have some knowledge on building signal cables and I have the proper cooper shielding to add to the iPod cable. I'll do this tomorrow. I assume this needs to be grounded, so I will ground the shielding to the ground wire from the MOST cable.
 
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Gonna resurrect this one.

Just sat in a friend's 2008 Turbo with mobridge.

He has a mobridge because a long time ago, I told him to get it.

SAME ****ING STATIC **** NOISE.

 
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Haha don't even get me started on my recent Mobridge experience! Looooong story short massive static on aux and iPhone connection, streaming Bluetooth not working, oh and the best part is the now bricked Bluetooth in general because of the Mobridge customer support advice... FAIL
 
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It is now very obvious to me that this is a design flaw of the Mobridge unit; the noise is generated internally and no amount of cable moving or shielding is going to work. I've tried all the correction methods, exactly per instruction and my Mobridge is still beeping like a bomb is about to go off. Kind of nerve-wracking sometimes.

You could look back at this thread and see how the answers were changed: first it was "you have to get it from us, we've sold thousands no problem," and then it became, "oh so our unit has the noise too, oh...., ok, then this is what you should do, blah blah blah." The salesmen then took us on a magical mystery tour of changing capacitors in the PCM (!!), to cable routing, cable wrapping, etc. Even their own recommended installer has no idea what on earth they are talking about.

I have become much more dependent on the Ipod function than expected, and because I listen to classical music, where there are a lot of quiet passages, the beep drives me a little nutty at times, so it would be a matter of time before I junk Mobridge and replace with Dension Ipod/Bluetooth from Eric at Bumper Plug. Not worth wasting time with Mobridge, let's close this sad chapter. I thought I did my homework regarding Dension vs. Mobridge but the clever salesmen managed to trick me LOL. Oh well - I am so in love with my Turbo at this point (I miss it if I don't drive for a few days!) that another 1000 is ok so long as my baby becomes more perfect :-).
 

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Guys, I have exactly same problem in my BMW E60 550i. Besides the noise, the menu navigation has a LOT of bugs! This is a VERY bad product. They say "seamless OEM integration", but this is much worse than BMW factory ipod integration (which has some limitations but no interference noise).

I have got support from mObridge. I even recorded the sound and sent to them, and they say the noise comes from the digital signal processor, but they have no idea why and how to solve it. Knowing this they told me to do all that cable shielding that obviously didn't work, and I lost precious time of my weekends.

The noise is there even with no iPod and no cable connected!!!

I can't stand to hear this f*** noise anymore, and now I connect my iPod via ipod dock to aux cable.

It is very frustrating to spend more than 400 dollars in such a bad product, designed to clients that are used to good stuff.
 
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BTW, if you look back at this thread all those posts by Cartronics with gems like "buy from us ONLY!", capacitor change, Dension has same problem, cable wrap, cable move, etc., have been deleted. The only evidence we have left are the quotes by other posters.

To be fair, the phone function is excellent so far (only problem is my android phone defaults to very small volume level, but that's an android problem that I've just found a solution for but haven't tried yet) with excellent sound quality, and the Ipod beep is ok, not too loud... if you don't have type A personality and you don't listen to music with many quiet passages, like classical. Honestly it is not *that* bad and the problem is partly me. I love my otherwise "perfect" Turbo baby with its beautiful suspension and road behavior, and a flaw irritates me.

We shouldn't be too upset; desperate people do desperate things, and car salesmen do desperate things period. What do you expect them to say, this thing we are going to make a commission on have a design flaw please don't buy it? LOL but really this incident just confirms once again that "car salesmen" (using the term broadly to include the lost souls formerly at Cartronics and now at Mobridge :-)) are never to be trusted completely because your suffering is their gain. FWIW, my dealings were never with the owner of Cartronics, who has passed on tragically, only with the support staffs.
 

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Can, the threads were removed because the Cartronics is no longer a vendor here, and we did not want people to inadvertently log into their website and place an order - the business is gone but their website was still active.

Can, drop me a PM if you want more info on Dension - I have installed several units on 997s and Cayennes.
 
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Thanks for the clarification Bob.

No I don't need any more confirmation - I know the next step is Dension if the beep drives me nut and have PM'ed Eric. Might PM you on the installation instruction, but this particular DIY seems too scary I might just have the installer does it.
 
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The only downside to the my Dension - I don't have good sound quality with bluetooth A2DP streaming.
 
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The only downside to the my Dension - I don't have good sound quality with bluetooth A2DP streaming.
I am no expert in bluetooth streaming but my understanding is it is inherently inferior (because of the compression involved - I think). This is not a fault of the Dension, just a limit of streaming technology?

My experience with a portable speaker (my android phone to a Foxl speaker Amazon Foxl, stealth system for the OR) is that direct connection with line level interconnect is vastly more dynamic and superior sounding than streaming by bluetooth.
 

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