Well, I went through a LOT to find and buy my 997 S CPO from dealer...and with some positive changes in finances I am more than ready to make the change to 997 Turbo! Question is if it is worth it, let me know your thoughts/experience please!

2007 Atlas Grey, 42k miles Sport chrono, heated seats, 6-spd, all stock. What should I be paying? it's listed for $74,452 and seems to have been there for a little while.

Also, since I recently bought my 997 S, White, 6spd CPO loaded, wondering if they will try to kill me on trade, any thoughts?

If not Turbo I will be lightly to medium modding the S =)
I am also in New England if that helps.

 

You will love the 997tt. I owned several cars (honda s2000 ,2007 M5 and 2007 997 C2S ..etc), while these cars were very good to me but the Turbo is ANOTHER WORLD. I personally think you should not be paying more than 70k for that car.
I bought mine(super clean) withh 22k miles and with trade-in 80k a year ago.
I am sure you can find low miles 997tt for 75k (thats my honest opinion).

 

can't say I blame you for the trade up, but yes, the dealer will kill you on the trade. If you can stomach it, private sale will be the way to minimize your loss.

Good luck!

 

Wise words. I agree. The Turbo is an absolute animal, you will not be disappointed.

 

If the Turbo is the same year and miles expect to pay 35-50K to buy it . It was worth it in 2007 . I'm not sure if its worth it now . after all you do have a CPO car that has no problems and you are electing to buy another used car . Thus its not only financial exposure but the added risk of reliability with buying two used cars hoping with success with both .

Another isssue is the car itself . The 997.1 Turbo is a great platform to modify but its not cheap to do it and buying it now brings you late to the party on a car which has been updated over time. Of course you coild leave the car stock .. but its my opinion that a 997.1 turbo in stock form is boring . The real joy in the car comes with mods . A 997.2 tt comes better equipped in stock form but the PDK is dated compared to the 991 cars .

In short .. you just bought a car and are considering buying another car only to want yet another car soon after .

Conclusion -My opinion -- keep the car , save the money , and apply it to the next Porsche when the one you have has more milles and use.

 

I just went from a 997 to a 997tt and the difference is phenomenal!!!! The power is so much fun! I just came back from a drive lol thats why i'm a little excited lol. Go for it man

 

I say do as you feel like.

I disagree with Yrralis on two points:

1) What does it mean "late to the party"? A car is a car, whatever the year. With the above mindset noone would buy 993T or 430 etc.

2) Yes, one can always wait for the newer model to fall in price to fit the budget, or wait for the next great thing (the next model is always better/faster/lighter)... For some people time is more valuable than waiting for another model. Some people want to have good ole Mezger engine with manual transmission, and 997.2T PDK is just not considered, despite significantly increased performance (anyway, that performance is all due to computer accelerating/shifting for the driver). I belong to both of the above groups, besides, I find PDK extremely boring (I tried it, yes, it is extremely efficient, but I was bored beyond belief).

What I agree with is:
1) Turbo is another level compared to NA, at least performance-wise.
2) Turbo gets more interesting with tuning (suspension, exhaust, software), though that could be said about any car, especially a car with turbo-engine.
3) Porsche tuning is very expensive

BTW, despite the big power (mine has 573hp), Turbo is also very very nice to just cruise around in, slowly. It is very comfortable and feels very well put together, and my car is 5 years old.

 

I say yes, step up to a turbo, the power is completely different.
But.....not that one. I would get one with a lot less miles for the same money, maybe even a yr or two newer.

 

Thanks for all the feedback!

I had a convo w/ Porsche dealer that has the tt today (ugh, I hate the car buying experience, even on my 31st car it is still a pain...) I agree stepping up to a tt is worth it, at this point if they are at all reasonable on trade and willing to do under $70k on theirs I will pull the trigger

That being said I don't "plan" on modding the TT other than ROTec LED's, maybe exhaust (fabspeed or AWE prob) and alpine in-dash (nav/backup cam/sat radio/DVD/iPod). I have this set-up in most of my cars and love it far more than OEM Porsche set-up.

Mileage doesn't deter me, although for resale I have to take it into account, I would plan on actually keeping this car more than 6mos/1year though!

Any typical issues I should know when I go check out the car? Body or mechanical etc? It is to be CPO and still you never know!
Aside form autotrader/DuPont, where else should I be looking for a CPO? or lower $ non-CPO if it's worth it?

 

Dude same boat as you a little while ago. Sorry but the Turbo is like crack. I just wonder how many days I could have enjoyed the car if I had gotten it earlier. Seriously there is no other car I want to be in.

 

Just picked up a 2008 997 TT. Came from a 2009 M3. All I can say is holy hell! Very fast car!

 

My two cents...

Although very difficult, I'd wait a little bit before pulling the trigger on that turbo you've mentioned. Here's why -

• You can sell your vehicle privately and save some cash. White 911s that are kept up move pretty quick.
• You may need to do more research on the turbo to find out exactly what options you want, e.g. (seats, brakes, diff lock, etc.). Buying used is great if you do your homework. You're in the driver's seat and rates will continue to be low.
• Mileage - I believe you'll find similar vehicles in that price range with less mileage and likely less wear on the exterior/interior that comes with mileage no matter how it is maintained. I'd pay a little more for less miles and feel great taking advantage of the last owner who didn't.

Despite continued upgrades, the turbo is not 'cosmetically' that different over the past 5 years. What I mean is this...the .1 turbo is an amazing ride despite not having PDK, touch screen, etc...Throw on some wheels, led's and it's very hard to tell, even to enthusiasts.

IMO, what you get in return for the price of the turbo now is astonishing. If I'm going to be late to a party...you can bet your *** I won't mind pulling up in a turbo.

 

^ This, right here. Great looking car, great power, great reliability, and great potential

I did the Depot/Dectane LED tails and my car was next to a 997.2 last night and honestly aside from the shape I was floored with how good the aftermarket tails looked.

Got the LED DRLs coming in from Vivid (theyve finally shipped) now... Can't wait to get them in and get some nice pictures done.

 

Let me clarrify and address each point but before I do I do want to point out that I stated "not so sure" with regards to trading in the car . It's neither a no or a yes . In short .. there are pros and cons to the choice but ultimately I do lean towards NOT trading it because he can always trade it "tomorrow" . Also having the savings is never a bad thing either . That said ....

1) He's late . The car is 5 years old . Period. Whether one likes a PDK Turbo or not it will beat a stock 997.1tt and even that's dated . Even a 997.2S might give a stock Turbo some handling challenge because the stock suspension sucks . Te power assist clutch is pathetic and when I bought my car even in 07 it was almost the dealbreaker . To remove it becomes expensive but having no warranty on the car also is expensive . His current car is CPO . In other words it's my opinion that there are a lot of justifiable reasons NOT to buy the car .

2) The "latest and greatest" become less attainable with 50K less in ones account , and an older car which is near crossing 50K miles . Keep in mind that a Turbo with over 50K miles is not an easy car to sell if he wants out . It has no warranty and most of the shoppers for high mile cars are financing them which makes it even harder for them to secure the loan . In short he will be stuck with the car . Now if he were the original owner with a 50K mile car then at least he's know how it was driven but that car has 42K miles on it and with that comes a lot of uncertainty.

 

There are many cars that are faster than 997.1TT, so what? 997TT is 3.9 to 62 and 12.8 to 125 in manual, according to Porsche. How much faster do you need and where do you get the chance to experience this, except occasional track day? Anyway, this is not only about speed in itself, and if you are only thinking about speed than you will never be happy because there is always another car that is faster.

Regarding clutch - I have no problem. Yes, it is a bit long, but it works fine for me, and I do quite some stop-and-go uphill traffic jams. I've had short and heavy Sachs sport clutch in another, lesser, car and that was more PITA. Or you mean something else regarding the clutch? Then you have to clarify, please. BTW, I have 2000mile-fresh clutch+flywheel.

One can always buy warranty for the car. Otherwise one should not ever buy a car older than 3 years, as most factory warranties are 3 years long. If you have the means to switch very expensive cars every 3 years - good for you.

Selling a 50k car maybe is difficult, I do not know, I will see if I sell my car when it is 65k in 2 years. In any case, I've seen 260k Turbos, 2 years old with 3k miles on the clock go for over 100k less than initial price, THAT is a loss! Selling any car is a loss, especially 997 Turbo, as they are so common. I find it strange being scared about what will happen in 10-20-30k miles BEFORE you even bought a car. Sure you have to think about this, yes there will be a loss, but you take it when it comes, otherwise better buy a Toyota and be done with it.

There is always uncertainty with used cars, one has to be smart and get as much info as possible, but in the end, even if you buy from a friend, you are not 100% sure he drove it well all the time. Turbos are considered to be robust and not prone to big-dollar brake-downs, as far as I know.

The market in US is big, unlike the market where I am at, but even here there are nice "low-hanging fruits", like that one I mentioned above (but PDK) or 2009 GT2s with 3k miles for 50% off the initial price. But it is always like this "if you add 10k more than you get lower miles, if you add another 10k then you will also get car one year younger, if you add another 10k...", in the end one comes to a new car. :-)