Can anyone advise on Cayenne TT purchase?
Can anyone advise on Cayenne TT purchase?
I have no idea of how reliable, or unreliable a 140k mile Cayenne is.
However, for only 20k... How hurt can you get?
That being said, my local dealer has one too for only 20k.
http://www.porscheofkingsautomall.co...713c70a04b.htm
Talk to Mac Faye. Tell him Mike Yeager said to call.
Mike
However, for only 20k... How hurt can you get?
That being said, my local dealer has one too for only 20k.
http://www.porscheofkingsautomall.co...713c70a04b.htm
Talk to Mac Faye. Tell him Mike Yeager said to call.
Mike
I purchased a 05 CTT with the power package with about 72K miles on the clock.
My purchase price was about $28K 2 years ago.
To answer the above "how hurt can you get?"
1. Consider the cost of replacing rotors on my particular variant of the CTT - front rotors are over $1300 a pair, leading to a brake job for a DIY'er of nearly $3000+ in parts alone...15% of your purchase price alone.
2. No other vehicle I've owned has had as many irritating bugs, electronic gremlins, easily worn parts as the 955 Cayenne. Faulty sensors, broken drive shaft (seriously? Everyone knows it happens, but no recall.) Known coolant pipe replacements needed (also not a recall.) Add the last two together, and you are looking at a bill of >$4-5K. The coolant pipes are not a recommended DIY IMHO.
If given the opportunity, I would have purchased something else. While a 500+ HP AWD SUV is fun in Wisconsin winters, the 955 Cayenne is nothing short of a engineering mistake.
My purchase price was about $28K 2 years ago.
To answer the above "how hurt can you get?"
1. Consider the cost of replacing rotors on my particular variant of the CTT - front rotors are over $1300 a pair, leading to a brake job for a DIY'er of nearly $3000+ in parts alone...15% of your purchase price alone.
2. No other vehicle I've owned has had as many irritating bugs, electronic gremlins, easily worn parts as the 955 Cayenne. Faulty sensors, broken drive shaft (seriously? Everyone knows it happens, but no recall.) Known coolant pipe replacements needed (also not a recall.) Add the last two together, and you are looking at a bill of >$4-5K. The coolant pipes are not a recommended DIY IMHO.
If given the opportunity, I would have purchased something else. While a 500+ HP AWD SUV is fun in Wisconsin winters, the 955 Cayenne is nothing short of a engineering mistake.
On the other hand, I have a 06 TTS and love it. No significant issues. I did replace the coolant pipes as a preventative measure and I am going to replace the rotors and pads. ($2200 or so in parts- Suncoast) A DIY job for sure. You are asking about a 05TT so your brake replacement parts are around $900- Suncoast) No problems with the Cardan Shaft for me thus far but that is a known weak area. There is a 3rd party product you can get for around $600 that supposedly works well to support the shaft.
I have no complaints about my TTS. It's fast and handles extremely well for what it is.
Walt
I have no complaints about my TTS. It's fast and handles extremely well for what it is.
Walt
The CTT is a car that will make you smile in so many ways (and cry in ways as described above). It defies the laws of physics. Its a fridge on wheels that can travel at 150+ mph (not that you drive that fast... ahem) and is the best and most competent family wagon I have driven. I could also call it an SUV unless you are riding on 21 inch wheels which mine had. Snow tires are a must then.
I think that I tend to agree with the above. At these miles, there are more things likely to go wrong than not.
I havent read the linked post, but I would suggest you look at the gen 2, newer more expensive, but better in many ways.
Good luck.
I think that I tend to agree with the above. At these miles, there are more things likely to go wrong than not.
I havent read the linked post, but I would suggest you look at the gen 2, newer more expensive, but better in many ways.
Good luck.
Also consider the history of the car. Many buyers are lured by the dramatic price drop of a CTT and relative cheap you can buy one that is 5-7 years old.
But many of them afterwards discover they cannot properly maintain it (very expensive, especially at the dealer). So some don't maintain it well or frequent enough, some maintain it like it's a civic and get an old change at jiffylube... Be aware of that and look into it before getting into a money pit.
But many of them afterwards discover they cannot properly maintain it (very expensive, especially at the dealer). So some don't maintain it well or frequent enough, some maintain it like it's a civic and get an old change at jiffylube... Be aware of that and look into it before getting into a money pit.
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I purchased a 05 CTT with the power package with about 72K miles on the clock.
My purchase price was about $28K 2 years ago.
To answer the above "how hurt can you get?"
1. Consider the cost of replacing rotors on my particular variant of the CTT - front rotors are over $1300 a pair, leading to a brake job for a DIY'er of nearly $3000+ in parts alone...15% of your purchase price alone.
2. No other vehicle I've owned has had as many irritating bugs, electronic gremlins, easily worn parts as the 955 Cayenne. Faulty sensors, broken drive shaft (seriously? Everyone knows it happens, but no recall.) Known coolant pipe replacements needed (also not a recall.) Add the last two together, and you are looking at a bill of >$4-5K. The coolant pipes are not a recommended DIY IMHO.
If given the opportunity, I would have purchased something else. While a 500+ HP AWD SUV is fun in Wisconsin winters, the 955 Cayenne is nothing short of a engineering mistake.
My purchase price was about $28K 2 years ago.
To answer the above "how hurt can you get?"
1. Consider the cost of replacing rotors on my particular variant of the CTT - front rotors are over $1300 a pair, leading to a brake job for a DIY'er of nearly $3000+ in parts alone...15% of your purchase price alone.
2. No other vehicle I've owned has had as many irritating bugs, electronic gremlins, easily worn parts as the 955 Cayenne. Faulty sensors, broken drive shaft (seriously? Everyone knows it happens, but no recall.) Known coolant pipe replacements needed (also not a recall.) Add the last two together, and you are looking at a bill of >$4-5K. The coolant pipes are not a recommended DIY IMHO.
If given the opportunity, I would have purchased something else. While a 500+ HP AWD SUV is fun in Wisconsin winters, the 955 Cayenne is nothing short of a engineering mistake.
I think the car is "reliable." It has never NOT started. It has never broken down so I can't drive it (even with a broken drive shaft.) It has never had a massive leak of any sort. But all the little things add up and drive me insane.
I think that Porsche should have issued a recall to the coolant pipes and drive shaft. They are known defects.
But I guess I should expect that from a company that refuses to issue a recall on coolant adapters for the GT1 engine block, IMS failure, clutch slave failure, cracked gen 1 PCCBs, etc.
I think that Porsche should have issued a recall to the coolant pipes and drive shaft. They are known defects.
But I guess I should expect that from a company that refuses to issue a recall on coolant adapters for the GT1 engine block, IMS failure, clutch slave failure, cracked gen 1 PCCBs, etc.
I am bbywu on this one. Although they are a fun SUV, maintenance is ridiculous and Porsche has for years been cheapening the parts they use whilst increasing the prices of their products and services. A great pity in my opinion.
Having owned both an 08 Turbo and a 2012 NA V8.
The 08 is one of the best put together cars I've ever driven. Save for finishing materials quality, as solid as our Bentley continental. It has nearly 50k miles and has been reliable with just oil changes. The only issues were ones we directly were responsible for, such as a bent rim and nicks on the rear bumper.
The 2012 has some teething issues. Electronic issues, suspension issues(air suspension). It gives me the feeling that at any moment the next issue will crop up - however real that will be who knows, but at 15k miles~ it has been to the dealership more than the 08 has for all of its maintenance.
That being said, the 05s are similar to the 08s. You're talking $3500 brake jobs, pricey oil changes etc. At that mileage I'd inquire into whether or not timing has been dealt with. Still, if it has been properly maintained, i'm sure this engine has more in it than that... and for $20k, consider that's the price of a new engine, I don't think you can ask for a better deal.
Even if you only got another 4 years and 50k miles, $5k a year in "depreciation" is pretty good for one of these cars!
The 08 is one of the best put together cars I've ever driven. Save for finishing materials quality, as solid as our Bentley continental. It has nearly 50k miles and has been reliable with just oil changes. The only issues were ones we directly were responsible for, such as a bent rim and nicks on the rear bumper.
The 2012 has some teething issues. Electronic issues, suspension issues(air suspension). It gives me the feeling that at any moment the next issue will crop up - however real that will be who knows, but at 15k miles~ it has been to the dealership more than the 08 has for all of its maintenance.
That being said, the 05s are similar to the 08s. You're talking $3500 brake jobs, pricey oil changes etc. At that mileage I'd inquire into whether or not timing has been dealt with. Still, if it has been properly maintained, i'm sure this engine has more in it than that... and for $20k, consider that's the price of a new engine, I don't think you can ask for a better deal.
Even if you only got another 4 years and 50k miles, $5k a year in "depreciation" is pretty good for one of these cars!
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