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Mechanical difference between 997.2 TT and TTS

Old Nov 8, 2012 | 07:26 AM
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What About intercoolers? TT & TTS same?
 
Old Nov 9, 2012 | 05:34 AM
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IMHO go for the TTS. I did.
 
Old Nov 9, 2012 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by C4SxM5

would a tuned TT be the same as a tuned TTS?
Yes.

Originally Posted by fattyk
What About intercoolers? TT & TTS same?
Yes.
 
Old Nov 9, 2012 | 07:40 AM
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OP, sorry for the thread hijack.

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What? you got the .2 TT, Congrats. Did you tune it yet or any other mods?
 
Old Nov 9, 2012 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by C4SxM5
any tuners can chime in?

would a tuned TT be the same as a tuned TTS?
its a qustion of money mate ...
 
Old Nov 10, 2012 | 06:04 PM
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From what I can tell from the owners manual and what the dealer said, if you have the sport chrono on a TT and enable sport mode then the engine makes the same power as the TTS does all the time. It's actually the same HP just a 35 ft/lb tq difference. Wife has a 997.2 6spd w/sport chrono. Dealer said and I quote "If you don't buy any other option get the sport chrono otherwise you throw away 35ft/lb torque and no way to get it".

All that being said, the rpm range you actually get full power from a factory tune is pretty narrow, a 3rd party tune will make that wider and probably more hp/tq.

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Old Nov 11, 2012 | 07:46 AM
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Captn -- could you explain what you mean by narrow rpm range for full power from a factory tune?
 
Old Nov 12, 2012 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by RollingThunder
Captn -- could you explain what you mean by narrow rpm range for full power from a factory tune?

If you look at a dyno graph of HP/TQ & BOOST, you'll see that full boost of 1.2 bar is only maintained about 1000-1500 rpm. It's not because the turbo's don't have the capacity, it's because the tune limits it pretty significantly. Hence narrow.

A good 3rd party tune will open that 1.2 [or more] bar level up to a wider RPM range like 2500+.

The limiting factor on a 997.2 is fuel, with a secondary issue of PDK if you have that. Both are pretty expensive to upgrade. Big boost = big fuel. Big boost = big TQ. Clutches are *relatively* inexpensive.

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Originally Posted by aa909
Is the entire drivetrain, suspension and exhaust setup the same as well? if so then what are the differences to justify the premium when anyone can buy a software flash and have a Turbo which will out perform a stock Turbo S?
THe aftermarket tune can void the warranty so on a car close to 180K +/- this can be a major factor.
 
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