Hey Guys, do any of you heel toe shift? My M3 pedal position is perfect for blipping the peddle. I find that the TT pedal position isn't for heel toe. Even with my foot at 45 degrees I can't really reach the brake and gas to blip and brake.

How do you guys do this? And no, I don't have small feet

 

I added pedals.
http://www.rennline.com/Rennline-Alu...ctinfo/P45.21/

 

Mine work perfectly, would not change them one little bit. Maybe your feet are very small or super narrow or something if they can't bridge between the brake and throttle?

I actually found the M3 pedals noticeably inferior in both weight/feel and placement in comparison. The Porsches have a far superior feel and are beautifully weighted.....much much easier to modulate i found. I've never driven a manual car so well sorted in the pedals as the P car.

 

I find Porsche's better suited to a Toe to Toe style rather than heel to toe. Your foot should be wide enough to blip the throttle with the outside of your upper foot by rolling your foot, whilst breaking with the inside.

 

ditto, made a huge difference for me.

 

I have the Rennline pedals and do the technique as described by 997TTMeister. Found that H/T is easier on the track with firm braking. Harder to do on streets because of street legal speeds. Do rev matching though pretty much every time. H/T takes practice and I just started this year. Other car PDK(my first track car C4S).

 

This could well be it. Perhaps is the case with the OP too? If you haven't had much practice at this or built in to your daily shift routines some heel toe it's simply just a matter of practice makes perfect and nothing to do with the pedals at all. Porsche is one company that has really mastered in getting the brake and throttle pedal weighting and modulation down to perfection for this very function. If you are finding yourself having to stab the brake hard to get the right throttle match by using high speed to allow a harder stab on the brakes to throttle match then it's really just a matter of practice... at all types of speeds and in all types of conditions. You should be able to do this regardless of how fast or slow you are travelling without upsetting the balance of the car or causing discomfort to yourself and the occupants.. As 997ttmeister said it's so easy to just rock your foot off the brake onto the throttle using both pedals with the one foot to produce the same result.

 

Agree. Still practicing on street but my brakes are ceramics PCCBs so they have a lot of bite compared to my steels on the C4S. Weight difference in the cars too.
There are some back roads I can get some speed on and practice 4th to 3rd downshifts and 3rd to 2nd. Only want to downshift sequentially because of fear of dreaded "money shift".

 

...yes what you say is right about the ceramics. I found the feel of those requires another learning curve again from being so used to the feel of steels. With more immediate bite it will take a bit of time to adjust to that trait. Probably make it easier going to steels once you've mastered it on ceramics. Try doing it just for the heck of it at street speeds in moderate traffic. Make a point of it every single day and wherever you can where the traffic allows. Its good in an urban environment where you move from street to street at moderate to low speeds. It will come. If you can do it slow, fast is even easier again. I can remember having the same problem but time and consistent practice sorts it out. Its a bit like riding a bike.

 

Thanks. DD the GT3 when I can to practice. Seat time with the proper coaching along with practice homework is key. It is rewarding when you get it right and you keep working on that consistency. Hope this exchange helps the OP.

 

+1 for Rennline & Toe Toe

 

Another vote for toe-toe shifting, as opposed to heel-toe shifting.

The pedals in most modern cars are setup in such a way that makes heel-toe shifting almost impossible. Toe-toe shifting is the way to go. Only use the ball (bony mass behind your big toe) of your right foot to apply pressure to the brake pedal, while hanging the rest of your foot off to the right. You can then roll your foot and use the rest of it to blip the gas pedal.

 

Yup and thanks guys. I will try toe toe. Just finished driving a total of 7 hours today driving to see my client in a rented Nissan Versa. Was excited to try toe toe but that will have to wait until tomorrow now

 

I was looking at my next secret plan (Boxster/Cayman "for the wife" LOL - I can't get over the mid engine magic) and ran across the video below. Chris Harris is complaining about the same thing we do at 8 minutes 7 seconds into the review; take a look it's funny to hear him b*tch & moan about it . (The difficulty has to do with the unusual height difference between brake's bite point and gas pedal of Porsche's.)

BTW, for those with PCCB, yes you are not alone, heel/toe is doubly hard with PCCB (vs. big red) because the bite point of PCCB is even higher. As many have mentioned, rennline solves it: no harm, lots of fun, highly recommended. BTW I only install the extension plate and threw away all the pretty pedals as they are chunky and make gas pedal feel different/heavier, but YMMV.

 

I've found that during normal street driving rolling my foot onto the gas to blip is fine and best.

But on track and applying much more pressure to the brake I will use my heel to blip the throttle. My brake will go below the pedal extension on the gas pedal (rennline) which I then will turn my heel out to blip the throttle.

Ken