Yeah I bought the 997.2 Turbo S because I thought there was no tuning solution for it yet so I couldn't be tempted to spend any $$,$$$ on it...but then of course I show up here and learn all about Champion/GIAC. My bank account is screwed!

I think your 6.16 record on your e92 M3 was amazing! The upgarded turbo e92 335's with 7XX wheel HP still can't do a 6.16! And the e92 M3 VT3 builds haven't done it either although we are now getting into cooler whether so we shall see. Plus there are a couple more e92 M3 engine builds on the way. But even if the record is broken one day, your standing record for all this time was very impressive.

Speaking of water/meth, yeah I threw away my Snow Performance system on my M3 and am in process of installing the Aquamist PWM system. I lost power on teh Snow System because the flow was very poor (non-linear) and we think (no data logging unfortunately) it was negatively affecting fuel trims. I'll get it back on the dyno shortly with the Aquamist PWM system and hopefully I will gain a little power, not lose power!

 

- 1' faster than Yorgos's fully built and ported engine running Dymags etc...
- Faster than AMS Alpha 9 997 kit
- Faster or equal the >800whp fully built Randy's 996TT
- Faster than Sergey's >1000hp A3076@1.75Bar ex built (with C16!)

A bit strange man!

Your engine can't exceed about 700 crank HP on pumpgas with the kit your car is supposed to be fitted with, who ever could be the tuner, there is no magic...

If it is not a very strong wind in the back (lol), your engine seems far more tuned than you believe!...

Anyway, congrats for the run!

P.

 

He's probably one of the best in the world at optimizing the 60-130 run. Those who do them regularly know it's a game. A game of finding negative DA's on a road with initial upslope but a long downslope to yield a net negative 2.9 slope

My M3's 60-130 has varied from high 6's to low 9's depending on DA's and slope.

 

Yep the M3 record was even more amazing than this one, however it was done with zero tyre slip (the car for whatever reason catapulted forward) and if I recall at very low ambient temps... Given the right conditions any similar car can replicate the results... (Now if we were talking abt manual gearbox - have had my share of manual records as well - now that requires a bit more skill)
On the meth issue aquamist sounds like a good deal to me, although like I said I do not trust them as I have seen them go south very often with disastrous results...

 

Yep it seemed strange to me as well, however we do not know how/where/when the cars you mention achieved their results and what would happen given they run in the exact same conditions as me... my bet is they would beat me ofcourse... I never claimed to have the most powerful car nor did I say I can beat all these cars in a roll race... After 130 mph these cars would have me for breakfast, but dedicated runs and maybe 1/4 mile race I believe differences are minimal!
As I bought the car from an associate of mine who bought it new and tuned it, I believe him that the car has stock internals... I can see what has been changed to the car but I do not know exactly what kind of upgrades cargraphic uses on their vtg's!
Thanks
A and sorry to hear abt your mishap... Hope you have her up and running in no time and stronger than ever...

 

Ofcourse it is a game and that is why it is so much fun...
Find the all the right pieces to the puzzle (temps, road, tyres, type of gas, where to start hitting the gas in order to spool the turbos, shiftpoint, da's, and many many more minor details that may have a huge impact on your time!
I started this thread by emphasizing on the fact that I do not have a sub 5 sevond car as a rule... Meaning I can not replicate easy these results, but having said that I can give my car to my wife anyday on pump gas and let her hit it anywhere and get a sub 6 sec run...
For how many of the records you see on this list do you have a clear and precise picture of how they were achieved??
I have to assume for sake of good order that all at least tried to do their best under the best possible conditions

P.S. and yes with practice comes improvement and I have owned one of the first vboxes that came out many years ago...

 

hello congtratulation to the result .
Your car isnt a cargrapgic stage 3 , because stage 3 doesnt have upgrated vtg , the biggest stage of cargraphic is stage 5 which cost 60k euros (crazy) , in which they upgrate everything . They dont change turbos without build engine , check on theyr site . You have a 3.8 or 4.1 stroker engine . And yes according to them theyr stage 5 with build engine , vtg, exhaust produces only 700hp with 100ron . It is limites because they want to keep the engine safe . Thats way you got so much power after ecu and tcu tune , you should have 850 hp

 

http://www.cargraphic-ms.de/index.ph...987,2988,3103/

http://www.cargraphic-ms.de/index.ph...,3103/&start=6

 

Hello and thanks for the info, however I am aware of all of cargraphic's offerings and I really wish it were so... However I am pretty sure (like 1000%) that previous owner installed Powerkit 3 (rated @ 600HP crank) as first of all he would not pay 100k euros to Cargraphic for a stage 5-6 etc (althouh money is not an issue for him) and most importantly the gearbox was completely stock at the time of the kit install as were the IC's! He later on (actually much later as he never even really drove the car) sent the gearbox to MKB (somenone told him that they do the best gearboxes) and installed GT2RS ic's flw again some expert advice... He never retuned as again I have to underline that the car was 99% of the time in a garage alongside many and more expensive supercars... He tuned it for bragging rights having read somewhere that Cargraphic is the best tuner, however I assure you (no matter how hard I wish it were true) he would never go all the way to strip the motor down and go all in...

Yep this is the correct link.. Stage 3 + GT2 Rs Ic's + IPD plenum
Thanks for pointing it out

 

Sorry to jump in, but according to your link and if my German are correct it states in stage 3 kit
"Abgasturbolader LH + RH modifiziert" which means turbocharger LH+RH modified.
598PS

On their stage 4 kit it has the same stuff + intercoolers (not sure if they are from the GT2) + inlet plennum and says 624PS.

So what madgreek said in the opening post it is a stage 3 + GT2 RS id's + IPD plenum. He didn't say something wrong.

Since you went in all the trouble to get in the website and post the links etc, it is good if you don't speak german to use a google translator next time (or select the english language on the top right of the website) or even easier is to look at the packages pictures.

 

I really hope you have a build engine , it would be very good for future mods , anyway enjoy your beast , I am jelous
Greetings from Albania

 

I was just trying to help him , not pointing out if he is wrong or not . I am only 22 so my knowledge isnt a lot , but you are very funny congratulation

Also I forgot , I posted the coment about stage 3 according to my last memory from visiting the page 2 months ago , also I posted the links (by cell phone ) without looking them only for help(information ) because I had some projects in hand and didnt have time