Unless you blow the engine up... But this engines are really strong

Champion replace my transmission under warranty and my car was flashed with Softronic... I didn't even flash it back to stock when I drop of the car in the dealer... (But Tom help me out too)

 

My friend you don't come to someone's thread and tell him that his questions are annoying... It's just wrong...

I don't think his question was stupid but even if it was this is his thread and we have to respect that...

 

I answered his first question. Always love this "my thread" thing. You may post your opinion in my public thread, as long as I agree with it. Please ....

Just placed my order for Softronic. Honestly I think if you A/B tested both FVD and Softronic you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference, based on the reviews I can find anyways. I don't think you can go wrong either way, they\re both great.

In the end the main reason I went Softronic, Scott has been great at replying to my queries and I like the free 2 follow up maps for future modifications. Good luck with making your choice.

 

Thank you Leo.

Let me say this, I've just spent 4k + on an extended warranty, and $90K on a car, and I purchased it to absorb some potentially catastrophic costs if engine/trans failures arise.

There's a lot of "probably, most likely, maybe, should, depends on the dealer/service manager, etc" being tossed around regarding these tunes.

I simply don't want coverage to be denied because of the presence of a tune!

I deal w insurance companies every day, all day, and I don't trust them any further than I can throw 'em.

At tens of thousands of dollars for an engine failure, I just want a reasonable assurance that an adjuster can't toss a claim in the presence of a tune.

Do I want a tune? YES. Do I know whose tune I'd purchase? YES. Do I now believe the presence of a tune would void my warranty? YES. Do I think a tune could possibly, although UNLIKELY, contribute to a drivetrain failure? YES.

And have these threads educated me adequately? YES.

Where else could we gain this type of fellowship and knowledge if it weren't for 6speed and RL? I am grateful for these forums!

If there's a little repetition in some threads, I'm ok w that.

What will I do? No tune.

.........Probably, lol!

 

I can only speak for the Softronic tune. It's awesome and the service is awesome as well. They will answer any question you have and did I say you will feel the difference as soon as you put your foot in it.

 

That is incorrect. If you wish, you can purchase the Durametric Tool with the FVD Flashclient cable for the same exact promo price of $ 1197.00.

 

I agree with you 100%. I purchased an extended warranty when my cpo ran out. I've been wanting to tune my car since the day I got it. But it's these forums and the fact that there is zero consensus on a)whether a tune could cause a catastrophic failure and b) whether they void the warranty that prevent me from buying one. Plus I've pm'd some of the tuners on here and haven't received a response which makes me more suspicious about buying one. So just like you, I've opted for no tune. Now for some who have deep pockets and dont care, why not? Take the risk and don't fret about the future. And be careful about this whole 911 being bullet proof mantra you read on here all the time. My car, with zero mods and zero track time (before my EP1) needed a new tip transmission because of a bad seal, that was covered by cpo ($15k). Would really suck if a tune or exhaust could be used as an excuse to void that coverage! For many of us, the warranty is very important and the OPs questions are fair and legit on a board like this.

 

I respectfully disagree, some of us are newer to this and although I've spent many hours learning about my new TT and exploring this and other sites, the information isn't always forthcoming. Well all have different knowledge levels and questions so our interests don't always converge, but hey give us a break, we're learning.

 

My apologizes Rhonda. I stand corrected.

 

My car was a 2007 CPO and I had exactly the same problem... The dealer (Champion Porsche) replace the transmission even when they knew I had Softronic and Europipe on it... But Champion Porsche are modifications friendly...

I'm not sure if you guys will be lucky with an extended warranty, they Never want to pay for anything...

 

No one is down playing the importance of warranty (if you still have it). All I'm getting at is the facts on the topic have not changed. They are the same now as they were 1 year ago, 2 years ago, 3 years ago etc.

I can trip and fall over the information. It's really not hard to find on this board.

I guess I'm one of those people that would rather spend 15min of my own time looking for an answer rather than waste 30min of a someone else's time repeating the same thing they've said for 5-6 years.

To each their own.

 

Hey guys, how about this?

If one were to buy a new ECU, and have dealer download stock porsche data to it, why not have this new ECU flashed by the tune company?

Then you would have your bone stock unmolested never flashed ECU to swap back when seeking warranty repairs.

In this case is there any way they have a trail of a tune that was installed?

Seems like this might work. Probably cost several hundred.......I really like the FVD.

 

That has also been discussed in length.

The problem with a second/spare ECU is that your metrics would be off. Operating hours, over revs etc are all stored in your ECU. If you run on ECU #1 for 6 months then swap to ECU #2 for warranty, they are likely going to notice that none of your numbers makes sense. Then you're in the predicament of explaining why you replaced the ECU yourself while still under warranty.

Not a fool proof method either.

 

I just got off the phone with a porsche tech in my area and I asked him specifically if they would be able to tell if a car has had a tune and has gone back to stock. He responded "NO" they would not be able to tell unless they flash the car back and then it runs poorly. I have been told that as long as the car goes in with stock tune there should be no issues with cpo. Damn, so many different school of thoughts

 

That would be great! But you're right, different schools of thought. I called my service advisor at my dealer and he said while unlikely that an aftermarket warranty company would dig really deep (I'm sure CPO would be much different and possibly more aggressive in searching, and aftermarket warranties have been known to send their own tech's out for big issues as well), they could tell from the DME based on the overrevs, hours, etc., like someone else said. It seems since there's no consensus, so the only answer is tune at your own risk. The risk for me is not worth the extra hp...at least not now