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That has also been discussed in length.
The problem with a second/spare ECU is that your metrics would be off. Operating hours, over revs etc are all stored in your ECU. If you run on ECU #1 for 6 months then swap to ECU #2 for warranty, they are likely going to notice that none of your numbers makes sense. Then you're in the predicament of explaining why you replaced the ECU yourself while still under warranty.
Not a fool proof method either.
The problem with a second/spare ECU is that your metrics would be off. Operating hours, over revs etc are all stored in your ECU. If you run on ECU #1 for 6 months then swap to ECU #2 for warranty, they are likely going to notice that none of your numbers makes sense. Then you're in the predicament of explaining why you replaced the ECU yourself while still under warranty.
Not a fool proof method either.
The problem is that you can not have 2 ECU's programmed to the same car because of issues with the immobilizer code. So in order to switch from one ECU to the other, you'd need someone with a PIWIS to program it with the codes that can only be retrieved from Porsche, specific to that car's VIN.
The bottom line is this...like many have said, there is no foolproof way. That's why our philosophy has always been to be honest with customers about the risks involved with performance flashing. Instead of pretending that there's no way to get caught, we simply offer our own warranty on top of your factory or CPO. Peace of mind, plain and simple.
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I just got off the phone with a porsche tech in my area and I asked him specifically if they would be able to tell if a car has had a tune and has gone back to stock. He responded "NO" they would not be able to tell unless they flash the car back and then it runs poorly. I have been told that as long as the car goes in with stock tune there should be no issues with cpo. Damn, so many different school of thoughts 
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This isn't necessarily true, as there are situations where an ECU may need to be replaced on a completely stock car. Maybe it gets wet, a pin fails on the harness, or it just goes bad...they are basically a computer after all, and computers can just simply fail. So the fact that you have a "new" ECU isn't necessarily a red flag.
The problem is that you can not have 2 ECU's programmed to the same car because of issues with the immobilizer code. So in order to switch from one ECU to the other, you'd need someone with a PIWIS to program it with the codes that can only be retrieved from Porsche, specific to that car's VIN.
The bottom line is this...like many have said, there is no foolproof way. That's why our philosophy has always been to be honest with customers about the risks involved with performance flashing. Instead of pretending that there's no way to get caught, we simply offer our own warranty on top of your factory or CPO. Peace of mind, plain and simple.
The problem is that you can not have 2 ECU's programmed to the same car because of issues with the immobilizer code. So in order to switch from one ECU to the other, you'd need someone with a PIWIS to program it with the codes that can only be retrieved from Porsche, specific to that car's VIN.
The bottom line is this...like many have said, there is no foolproof way. That's why our philosophy has always been to be honest with customers about the risks involved with performance flashing. Instead of pretending that there's no way to get caught, we simply offer our own warranty on top of your factory or CPO. Peace of mind, plain and simple.
Ok so your ECU failed for a legit reason on your stock car, why did you not bring your car in for warranty? That is the entire purpose here right? To preserve CPO. What person with a bone stock car, failed ECU and is under warranty will go "Yep I'll order a new one and replace it myself without ever consulting the dealership".
If you've replaced it (aka swapped in your spare) without ever consulting the dealership while under warranty, that throws up a red flag.
Your logic doesn't make much sense to me.
Ok so your ECU failed for a legit reason on your stock car, why did you not bring your car in for warranty? That is the entire purpose here right? To preserve CPO. What person with a bone stock car, failed ECU and is under warranty will go "Yep I'll order a new one and replace it myself without ever consulting the dealership".
If you've replaced it (aka swapped in your spare) without ever consulting the dealership while under warranty, that throws up a red flag.
Ok so your ECU failed for a legit reason on your stock car, why did you not bring your car in for warranty? That is the entire purpose here right? To preserve CPO. What person with a bone stock car, failed ECU and is under warranty will go "Yep I'll order a new one and replace it myself without ever consulting the dealership".
If you've replaced it (aka swapped in your spare) without ever consulting the dealership while under warranty, that throws up a red flag.
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Tom, your argument for your company's tune is very compelling.
What brand tune do you use?
How can I take advantage of your extra "warranty" when I am up in Michigan? Or do I need to be local to your dealership?
Very interested in this! Thanks in advance!
What brand tune do you use?
How can I take advantage of your extra "warranty" when I am up in Michigan? Or do I need to be local to your dealership?
Very interested in this! Thanks in advance!
Since you're not local, the only stipulation would be that you have the car serviced at one of our authorized dealers. I can check monday and see who's in your area. It won't be a problem.
Shoot me an email and I'll get back to you asap. tomp@championmotorsport.com
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