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Old Feb 15, 2014 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by PSTT07
From your response it seems your okay that it's been in a minor accident. With that out of the way, here is some advice on things to think about…as a 50K turbo can turn into a 60k turbo in the blink of an eye:

Tires - approx 2K installed w/labor all in (MPS2, etc.)
Brakes - does it need pads, rotors, etc. (with PCCB this is critical to know)
Preventive Maintenance - look up what should be done @ 50k, don't know off hand but would guess - plugs, filters, fluids, etc. (depending on needs ~1-2k for major service)
Clutch - is it a 6speed?
TPMS - OEM on all for tires = ~1k at the dealer installed
Warranty - what's your comfort level here? It's out of factory warranty and won't qualify for CPO. If the car qualifies, you can purchase a warranty from Fidelity/EasyCare but would be very pricey at that mileage. Reason I ask is this, are you okay with the fact that a small leak to an antifreeze line located on top of the engine (~$25 part) requires the engine to be removed and will be expensive to fix on your dime? There are little things that can come up on these cars. I wouldn't say this is common but you'll read about this and that on occasion.

What shape is the interior/exterior in? Do you care if the seats are worn or if the interior leather is not in good shape? Rock chips and other items, you okay with that? Has it had a clear bra? How many panels painted?

Not trying to scare you away from this in anyway. These are awesome cars, no doubt about it. But, make sure you take the necessary steps to have the car checked out by a respected dealer/mechanic, etc.

Good luck!
+1 on all these points.
 
Old Feb 15, 2014 | 10:46 PM
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that's still dirt cheap. check paint thickness in the rest of the car. IMO, 1 mph hit does not warrant a new bumper
 
Old Feb 16, 2014 | 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by cpana75
From what I am told, it doesn't appear on the CarFax, and it was very minor as in the car rolled into the rear bumper in traffic. Less than 1mph impact. Only thing changed was the rear bumper because it had a crack. Nothing else changed or replaced.
that sounds a lot like "but officer, I've only had a couple of beers." That's pretty much the standard reply. Nobody says they've had 8 with the immediate prospect of facing the consequences.
 
Old Feb 16, 2014 | 07:16 AM
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Thanks fir the great replies everyone. Just to add some info, the car is a 6 speed and it is from a private owner. Just had a long conversation with the owner and it appears that the car is stock and has had all maintenance at the local Porsche dealer. Pads have never been changed, but apparently they don't need to be right now. Car appears to be mechanically sound. Only thin I am stuck now on is price as I have also sourced a local to me 97 TT with 15K miles for $69K. This is also a stock car, but this one comes with all maintenance records, does NOT have PCCB, but otherwise has everything I want. I am currently leaning to the low mile car as the PCCB's are not that important to me. I have to think about it some more. Decisions, decisions....
 
Old Feb 16, 2014 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by cpana75
Thanks fir the great replies everyone. Just to add some info, the car is a 6 speed and it is from a private owner. Just had a long conversation with the owner and it appears that the car is stock and has had all maintenance at the local Porsche dealer. Pads have never been changed, but apparently they don't need to be right now. Car appears to be mechanically sound. Only thin I am stuck now on is price as I have also sourced a local to me 97 TT with 15K miles for $69K. This is also a stock car, but this one comes with all maintenance records, does NOT have PCCB, but otherwise has everything I want. I am currently leaning to the low mile car as the PCCB's are not that important to me. I have to think about it some more. Decisions, decisions....
Go for the lower mileage one if you can afford it. Invest in a PPI also.
 
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dunno what you are waiting for, a 997tt for $52k is a steal. you are going to d1ck around and it will be gone
 
Old Feb 16, 2014 | 08:23 AM
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For $51K, if it drives good, passes a PPI does not have a title issue why not?

So what if the bumper cover was replaced? If it was hit hard enough to cause other damage the insurance company would total it. A good inspection by a reputable dealer can sort it out.

If you get it and you don't like it I doubt that you would have much trouble reselling it.

Good luck and post some pictures!
 
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I think the issue is with $51k and the "1mph" accident (not reported) things sound a little fishy and $50k is a lot if you are anxious.

Pads never changed at 50k miles? That sounds a little optimistic and even if he hasn't changed them, they WILL need to be changed almost immediately.
 
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the pads absolutely need to be changed. otherwise sounds like a great car.
if you get it, change your pads before your plates come in.
@50k you are going to be well below 50% pad life..
the pads should be changed at no more than 50k (i personally change mine @20k... cheap insurance on the rotors).


jump on that car before someone else does.
 
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OP…you seem to have a better idea now what to look for, ask about, from a maintenance/mechanical perspective. Beyond this, IMO you should be thinking about what your expectations are on the condition of the vehicle interior and exterior. What's your comfort level on mileage? You planning to drive it daily, e.g. 12k/year. How long you want to keep it? What color and options are most important to you, e.g. adaptive sport seats?

Hearing your response to these questions would help determine where one would steer you in the vehicle. I don't like excessive seat wear, scuffs on the interior leather, excessive roc chips, scratches, etc. Each vehicle will have its own level of wear in this regard. Mileage doesn't always determine that either. The sample at >50k could be very well taken care of, who knows. I've seen some with 10k miles fairly abused. So to each their own.

Gotta get up close with these and determine where the sweet spot is based on your budget and minimum expectations for a turbo.

As you get familiarized with this site you'll learn a lot about these cars. Most on here prefer adaptive seats for example. If I were in your shoes I too would hold out for this option. Some want extra tie bits inside, such as carbon or illuminated door sills. Inevitably many learn after the fact and then spend cash on adding/making it they way you want. For example, wheels and rear led lights. Do you care if the lower parts are painted or is the black front lip, side skirts and rear valance fine with you?

Trying to help you understand all the things to consider. You are in the driver's seat and should take your time finding exactly what you want.
 
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If this car drives nice I would absolutely buy it at that price. Even if you have to throw 5k at it in maintenance and others its a steal. You can replace the PCCB rotors with steels if it ever comes to that. For $52k you'd have a 997TT that could actually be driven the way its meant to be driven.
 
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As for PCCB, change the pads at 50%, change fluid every year, and enjoy. Porsche claims rotors should last up to 380,000(!) miles with proper care. Rear bumper covers are notoriously difficult to repair, but dead easy to replace, so they do get replaced quite often.
 
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Thanks for all the feedback and food for thought everyone. I really appreciate it. I am leaning more towards the low mile car without all the need for immediate maintenance and that is as clean as clean can be. No PCCB, but it does have everything else. The PCCB's were not really on my list of must haves anyway. The big reds will suit me just fine.
 
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I am interested in this $52k car. I have a friend that is looking for a project car.
 


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