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Old Aug 14, 2014 | 11:10 PM
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Not to star anything wrong here but ones of my buddys sold his GTR and bought a 997.2 Turbo with GIAC, Tubi Exhaust, Champion Intercoolers and werks intake... He decide it to tuned with COBB (93oct) and two things happen, first it make more power with the COBB custom tune and second it make more or less the same whp that I make (mine with the plenum make better midrage whp and little more peak whp)

So in one hand we prove that the plenum really give whp and in the other hand we discover that AWE IC's put more or less the same whp that the champion IC's (very similar AIT too)
 

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Old Aug 20, 2014 | 09:22 AM
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Cool, IMHO they are more or less the same of the Champion ones but cheaper
This is not true at all. They use a core made by a company called Bell, and our cores are a proprietary core made by Garret. Not similar at all.

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Not to star anything wrong here but ones of my buddys sold his GTR and bought a 997.2 Turbo with GIAC, Tubi Exhaust, Champion Intercoolers and werks intake... He decide it to tuned with COBB (93oct) and two things happen, first it make more power with the COBB custom tune and second it make more or less the same whp that I make (mine with the plenum make better midrage whp and little more peak whp)

So in one hand we prove that the plenum really give whp and in the other hand we discover that AWE IC's put more or less the same whp that the champion IC's (very similar AIT too)
No offense, but I'd like to see proof of this. If this was true...where are all the 9.8 - 10.0 second 1/4 mile cars running COBB tunes?

The other question would be what version of the tune does your friend have in his car? If the car was tuned over 1 year ago, most likely he did not have the most recent version of the GIAC software in the car.
 
Old Aug 20, 2014 | 09:29 AM
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Tom, I will only say one thing... My car will get to your 135 trapspeed soon, maybe a 9 sec will be accomplish but the 135 will come
 
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Tom, I will only say one thing... My car will get to your 135 trapspeed soon, maybe a 9 sec will be accomplish but the 135 will come
I have a customer in New York who is trapping 137-138 now with out package....
 
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Originally Posted by Tom@Champion
I have a customer in New York who is trapping 137-138 now with out package....
So GIAC and Cobb are prob getting the same amount of hp out of simmilar hardware, not really a suprise both companies knows what they are doing.

But the Cobb unit still provides alot more features for less $...right?
 
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So GIAC and Cobb are prob getting the same amount of hp out of simmilar hardware, not really a suprise both companies knows what they are doing.

But the Cobb unit still provides alot more features for less $...right?
With all due respect to the fellas at Cobb and to Webcarconnection, I don't think that's really an accurate statement to make.

So far, the only car claimed to make similar power is his, and we have yet to see any concrete results, only his claims.
 
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I have a customer in New York who is trapping 137-138 now with out package....
Good, that's on race gas?

Let the games begin
 
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Let the games begin
OK

My only question is....why spend so much time with "games" and trying to get to where we already are? You could have flashed your car with our Champion/GIAC software months ago and already been enjoying that proven performance level like so many others already are.
 
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I enjoy the competition. Helps to develop products and push the platform further.

You guys have some fast cars for sure!

Thanks

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Originally Posted by Tom@Champion
OK

My only question is....why spend so much time with "games" and trying to get to where we already are? You could have flashed your car with our Champion/GIAC software months ago and already been enjoying that proven performance level like so many others already are.
Hehehe good question, the awnser is simple, I trust COBB and a good custom tune... And don't worry we are gonna see better results, only time will tell
 
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Oh and please post some pics of the passes of the New York guys and other of your customers that made more than 132 trapspeed with pump gas
 
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Oh and please post some pics of the passes of the New York guys and other of your customers that made more than 132 trapspeed with pump gas
Here you go. And this one is even a cabriolet. I'll try to get other customers to send me theirs as well.

 
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Can't go wrong with the cobb.
 
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webcarconnection,

You'll need some light weight wheels as well to compare, that Cabriolet on the video has BBS FI wheels, very, very light... I'd say around 6-8 LB's lighter than stock per wheel, which is huge.
 
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webcarconnection,

You'll need some light weight wheels as well to compare, that Cabriolet on the video has BBS FI wheels, very, very light... I'd say around 6-8 LB's lighter than stock per wheel, which is huge.

But it's also a 300lb heavier car....
 


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