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Old Dec 1, 2014 | 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by elite1
This post makes no sense to me. Why don't you just show your results on the track.

I won't be there because i have a Porsche and could never compete with a viper.

I look forward to yumer's results and current build.
Exactly what about my post does not make sense to you?

I congratulated the owner in taking a decision to compete with the AWD big boys league which is currently dominated with GTR's and TT Lambos, and I gave my comments about the hollinger sequential (which is also used by TT Vipers) and the turbo decision. I'm sure the owner has already discussed these with the builder.

I only have 1/4 mile results of the TT Viper and it's irrelevant with this thread.
 
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Originally Posted by porschecayenne92
Well boys its a little bit rude to suggest the owner what to do after he spend thousent of dollars in it. The 997 platform always has done more with less . 1700 hp will do just fine . At least Anthony has ***** and didnt replice his 997 with a Japonese box to go the eaisier way.

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I only suggested the next size turbo in the FP line to be competitive against the AWD big boys who are putting down close to 2000 whp but sandbagging. There is nothing rude about this. I don't know the details of his turbo setup but it could be as easy as just replacing the turbos. Maybe, he has already discussed this with his builder.

Again I congratulate the owner to represent Porsche in the AWD big boys league dominated by GTR's and TT Lambos and I look forward to his results.
 
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If I had to guess, Anthony and EVOMs have thought about all the options. EVOMs (the builder) currently has the following titles in the Porche world:

Fastest standing late model mile- 234.6 mph
Fastest standing half mile- 215.93 mph
Fastest late model 1/4 mile- 9.29@172.7
Fastest Porsche 60-130- 3.28 sec
Fastest Porsche 100-150- 2.86 sec

With all due respect, until you can claim anything close to those numbers.....frankly your opinion on them using the wrong turbo and poorly built transmission is laughable and insulting.

This isnt a guy doing it out back in his garage, this is a shop building a ridiculous level car that may never have been seen before in the Porsche community.
 
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Originally Posted by TT VIPER

I only suggested the next size turbo in the FP line to be competitive against the AWD big boys who are putting down close to 2000 whp but sandbagging. There is nothing rude about this. I don't know the details of his turbo setup but it could be as easy as just replacing the turbos. Maybe, he has already discussed this with his builder.

Again I congratulate the owner to represent Porsche in the AWD big boys league dominated by GTR's and TT Lambos and I look forward to his results.

The reducing of turbo lag could be the key . As you said there are a lot of ets99 with big turbo lag .
 
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Originally Posted by 93ls1rx7
If I had to guess, Anthony and EVOMs have thought about all the options. EVOMs (the builder) currently has the following titles in the Porche world:

Fastest standing late model mile- 234.6 mph
Fastest standing half mile- 215.93 mph
Fastest late model 1/4 mile- 9.29@172.7
Fastest Porsche 60-130- 3.28 sec
Fastest Porsche 100-150- 2.86 sec

With all due respect, until you can claim anything close to those numbers.....frankly your opinion on them using the wrong turbo and poorly built transmission is laughable and insulting.

This isnt a guy doing it out back in his garage, this is a shop building a ridiculous level car that may never have been seen before in the Porsche community.
I am not going to repeat myself. What I wrote is very clear. Show me where I said they are using "wrong turbos" or "poorly built transmission". I did not say that. I just made a suggestion about the turbo size knowing how much sandbagging GTR's and TT Lambos do. I have the utmost respect for Evoms and I'm sure the car will be a monster when finished.
 
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Originally Posted by porschecayenne92
The reducing of turbo lag could be the key . As you said there are a lot of ets99 with big turbo lag .
It could be. I don't know if the owner will be street driving this car. For street driving, that might me the reason for decision. But with Syvecs you can do lots of things such as 2 step, anti-lag, rolling anti-lag, etc. That's how most of the FP 99 guys overcome lag in racing.
 
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Originally Posted by 93ls1rx7
If I had to guess, Anthony and EVOMs have thought about all the options. EVOMs (the builder) currently has the following titles in the Porche world:

Fastest standing late model mile- 234.6 mph
Fastest standing half mile- 215.93 mph
Fastest late model 1/4 mile- 9.29@172.7
Fastest Porsche 60-130- 3.28 sec
Fastest Porsche 100-150- 2.86 sec
I'm not 100% sure, but I believe E Kanoo Racing beat a few of these records, specifically the 1/4 mile one

 
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I'm not 100% sure, but I believe E Kanoo Racing beat a few of these records, specifically the 1/4 mile one

EKANOORACING Porsche 997TT World Record Run 9.09 @251KM/H - YouTube
E Kanoo's car was built by EVOMs.

But I do need to update the elapsed time!
 
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Originally Posted by 93ls1rx7

E Kanoo's car was built by EVOMs.

But I do need to update the elapsed time!
No its old setup was an evt1000 . they have an esmotor es1400 now. Which is a gt3586 . Anthony turbochargers are way bigger .
 
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Originally Posted by TT VIPER
Congrats on your monster build with a class act builder. The 1500+ whp AWD group is a crazy fast group of cars with a lot of money spent. I wish you the best in your presentation of Porsche in this group.

The big GTR's and TT Lambo's are putting down close to 2000 whp and are very hard to catch. The Hollinger sequential is a good transmission but you will need to do some upgrades (especially with the clutches) as these units are not originally designed for these power levels.

The FP 6466TZ is a nice turbo but for the league you will be competing in, it would be better to go with FP HTZ Super 99. These are the turbos ETS GTR and some other big build 4.0L GTR's are using.

Traction, transmission and other drivetrain parts will be your main issues in these events and the price of VP Import Can't wait to see you in action with this monster build.
Thank you!

I'm well aware the FP6466 isn't going to produce close to the same power as a maxed out Super 99. I'm also well aware what is in the big GTR's (Me and the ETS guys race at the same events). I'm not sure if you know, but the porsche's can not run a 28" tall tire on all four corners like a GTR can. That's why these GTR's hook with 2000whp. The biggest we can go because of the ratio is right under 27" in rear and 26" in front. It's not as simple as bolting on the biggest turbo and turning the boost to the ceiling. The lambos do it because of the awd mod, but nobody knows what that is as underground racing does not want to share there R&D, which I don't blame them. If I make 1500whp, which is the goal and actually hook, after this race season I will order a bigger turbo. FP told me they will be coming out with a FP6766 next year. Remember my car should be a good 500lbs lighter than a GTR. ETS has developed a Front facing turbo kit now that is actually a 74mm turbo. What a lot of people don't know is that these big GTR builds require spare engines. One of my friends has a 1800whp GTR and has 3 engines. Each engine only lasts 2-3 events before it needs to be rebuilt.

As far as the trans, we are pretty confident it will be fine. Bill Rader made some special adjustments to the box as well. If it blows though I'll take care of it. A buddy of mine here in Vegas has one of the fastest vipers in the world. He had a holinger sequential before changing to a different one. His gears looked new when it got opened up. He took 2nd at Texas Invitational (RWD Event) to NTH Moto. He has twin 80's on it and made 1650whp at 15lbs of boost. His car was hitting 179 at TI, now a heavy GTR with 6466 was running 187. Goes to show you that you dont need a gigantic turbo.

I have replaced every possible drivetrain part that can be upgraded. I'm sure there will be some things here and there that might need to be addressed, but its part of the game.

I was going to use a FP3794, but Ryan at syvecs told me to go with the 6466 instead. FP also told me that I will only leave 100whp on the table, but my power band will be a lot better.

Ekannoo has the best 1/4 mile time now with the Emoter 1400 kit. Evoms still has the highest trap speed.

Tim in New York with the 996tt has the Texas Mile record for 996 and 997's, with a 235.1.
 

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Originally Posted by 93ls1rx7
E Kanoo's car was built by EVOMs.

But I do need to update the elapsed time!
You're thinking the EVOMS Mayhem car; like porschecayenne said this is a separate, 997.1 build running the ESMotor 1400 package and Tiptronic trans. No idea how it was tuned (stock DME or standalone).
 
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Originally Posted by 93ls1rx7
If I had to guess, Anthony and EVOMs have thought about all the options. EVOMs (the builder) currently has the following titles in the Porche world:

Fastest standing late model mile- 234.6 mph
Fastest standing half mile- 215.93 mph
Fastest late model 1/4 mile- 9.29@172.7
Fastest Porsche 60-130- 3.28 sec
Fastest Porsche 100-150- 2.86 sec

With all due respect, until you can claim anything close to those numbers.....frankly your opinion on them using the wrong turbo and poorly built transmission is laughable and insulting.

This isnt a guy doing it out back in his garage, this is a shop building a ridiculous level car that may never have been seen before in the Porsche community.

Yeah trust me we have thought about everything time and time over again. Evoms, Ryan, Al-Anabi Racing tuner, Tim in New York, Forced Performance all suggested FP6466.
 
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You're thinking the EVOMS Mayhem car; like porschecayenne said this is a separate, 997.1 build running the ESMotor 1400 package and Tiptronic trans. No idea how it was tuned (stock DME or standalone).
It ran on stock ECU initially, now has a syvecs.
 
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Originally Posted by TT VIPER
It could be. I don't know if the owner will be street driving this car. For street driving, that might me the reason for decision. But with Syvecs you can do lots of things such as 2 step, anti-lag, rolling anti-lag, etc. That's how most of the FP 99 guys overcome lag in racing.
Not worried about lag, worried about traction and the heads on the engine with 2000whp.
 


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