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Old Dec 1, 2014 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 93ls1rx7
E Kanoo's car was built by EVOMs.

But I do need to update the elapsed time!
It was originally built by Evoms, then when Mayhem was sold to Al-Anabi in Qatar who is Ekanoo's competition he decided to go to Evoms competition because mayhem was sold to his competitor.
 

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+1 again for your proper due diligence Anthony! Well spoken and well thought over. Shared info and input is good although opinions differ. Most importantly you are not afraid to say "maybe later" or "if it %#&@4! then i'll take care of it"

And props to EVOMS. I have not seen this type of progress before!

No one has all the answers!

Good luck!
 
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+1 again for your proper due diligence Anthony! Well spoken and well thought over. Shared info and input is good although opinions differ. Most importantly you are not afraid to say "maybe later" or "if it %#&@4! then i'll take care of it"

And props to EVOMS. I have not seen this type of progress before!

No one has all the answers!

Good luck!
Thanks Sam! I really tried to do as much research as possible before doing this build. I don't think this car will win the highest trap speed compared to the 2000whp lambos, but I think it can win the roll events. Trap speed imo is just who has the most HP. ET and first to the finish line is where the weight of the car and driver reaction time matter, not the most HP.
 
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Thank you!

I'm well aware the FP6466 isn't going to produce close to the same power as a maxed out Super 99. I'm also well aware what is in the big GTR's (Me and the ETS guys race at the same events). I'm not sure if you know, but the porsche's can not run a 28" tall tire on all four corners like a GTR can. That's why these GTR's hook with 2000whp. The biggest we can go because of the ratio is right under 27" in rear and 26" in front. It's not as simple as bolting on the biggest turbo and turning the boost to the ceiling. The lambos do it because of the awd mod, but nobody knows what that is as underground racing does not want to share there R&D, which I don't blame them. If I make 1500whp, which is the goal and actually hook, after this race season I will order a bigger turbo. FP told me they will be coming out with a FP6766 next year. Remember my car should be a good 500lbs lighter than a GTR. ETS has developed a Front facing turbo kit now that is actually a 74mm turbo. What a lot of people don't know is that these big GTR builds require spare engines. One of my friends has a 1800whp GTR and has 3 engines. Each engine only lasts 2-3 events before it needs to be rebuilt.

As far as the trans, we are pretty confident it will be fine. Bill Rader made some special adjustments to the box as well. If it blows though I'll take care of it. A buddy of mine here in Vegas has one of the fastest vipers in the world. He had a holinger sequential before changing to a different one. His gears looked new when it got opened up. He took 2nd at Texas Invitational (RWD Event) to NTH Moto. He has twin 80's on it and made 1650whp at 15lbs of boost. His car was hitting 179 at TI, now a heavy GTR with 6466 was running 187. Goes to show you that you dont need a gigantic turbo.

I have replaced every possible drivetrain part that can be upgraded. I'm sure there will be some things here and there that might need to be addressed, but its part of the game.

I was going to use a FP3794, but Ryan at syvecs told me to go with the 6466 instead. FP also told me that I will only leave 100whp on the table, but my power band will be a lot better.

Ekannoo has the best 1/4 mile time now with the Emoter 1400 kit. Evoms still has the highest trap speed.

Tim in New York with the 996tt has the Texas Mile record for 996 and 997's, with a 235.1.
Hi, once again congratulations on being the flagship of 997 in the big boys AWD league. Obviously, you have done your research before making decisions on such a large build.

As you know, in the big boys AWD league everything comes down to putting the power to the ground. UGR TT Lambos do it and keep it as a secret. ETS and AMS do it also and again each has their own secrets. I didn't know about the tire limits in Porsches. Your weight advantage can give you the edge in competing against GTR's and TT Lambos. ETS' new front mount 74 mm is a crazy setup. Even bigger than the PT7275 Stage 2R TT Lambos run. I wonder how those setups will perform on the track and street. FP 6466 may be the perfect size for you given your weight advantage and your whp goal.

You're talking about Frank's TT Viper, right? That car has a monster setup with GTX4508R's if I remember right. Nth Moto's TT Viper is faster with smaller turbos (GTX4202R's). Both these TT Vipers use Emco DV46 sequential transmission, which is also my dream transmission (I have the old G-Force T56 in my twin 72 setup). As you have mentioned, Frank had a Hollinger sequential 6 speed and he replaced that with the Emco sequential. I'm sure both transmissions would work great with all the custom treatment they are getting.

Congratulations again and I look forward to seeing your results.
 
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Hi, once again congratulations on being the flagship of 997 in the big boys AWD league. Obviously, you have done your research before making decisions on such a large build.

As you know, in the big boys AWD league everything comes down to putting the power to the ground. UGR TT Lambos do it and keep it as a secret. ETS and AMS do it also and again each has their own secrets. I didn't know about the tire limits in Porsches. Your weight advantage can give you the edge in competing against GTR's and TT Lambos. ETS' new front mount 74 mm is a crazy setup. Even bigger than the PT7275 Stage 2R TT Lambos run. I wonder how those setups will perform on the track and street. FP 6466 may be the perfect size for you given your weight advantage and your whp goal.

You're talking about Frank's TT Viper, right? That car has a monster setup with GTX4508R's if I remember right. Nth Moto's TT Viper is faster with smaller turbos (GTX4202R's). Both these TT Vipers use Emco DV46 sequential transmission, which is also my dream transmission (I have the old G-Force T56 in my twin 72 setup). As you have mentioned, Frank had a Hollinger sequential 6 speed and he replaced that with the Emco sequential. I'm sure both transmissions would work great with all the custom treatment they are getting.

Congratulations again and I look forward to seeing your results.
Exactly! It's all about what you can hook with. Like I said I really feel on paper a 6766 would have been a better choice power wise, but I don't think I'll be able to hook with those maxed out. The biggest tire I can run in the front is a 255-40-18, which is a 26" tall tire. Only hoosier makes this size for me too. So the biggest I can go in the rear is 315-35-18, which hoosier, toyo, and MT do not make. I'm going to run 245-40-18 in the front and 305-35-18 in the rear. It's a 2.7% differance. We need to stay around 3% max, but less if possible. I don't think with that size of tire I can hook with 2000whp. If I hook with 1500whp I'll be on the phone with FP pre ordering an FP6766 or larger trust me. At the rate things are going by next year the big GTR's will be making 2500whp. These events will eventually need to be regulated by turbo or tire size like drag racing or it's just gonna come down to who will have the most power (aka the biggest wallet). Regulating the event makes it come down to the best driver, reaction time, and most effective set up for that tire class.

Yes, Frank is my local buddy. His car is a monster! It has a lot more left in it, but sadly he has put it up for sale for $160,000. He just spent $30,000 on a complete carbon fiber body shell too. He switched away from the holinger because he was nervous that it was going to blow because of the low power rating holinger gave him. When he opened the trans up the gears looked brand new. So we know holinger underrates these gearbox's. Evoms also had one of these put in mayhem when it ran the 215.xx half mile. We ordered the same exact gear ratio's. As far as the nth viper I have a feeling it will have a bigger turbo set up for the next event .

Sounds like you have a monster as well. Too bad you're not in the US. I might be adding a 2015 Viper TA to the garage in summer.
 

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Exactly! It's all about what you can hook with. Like I said I really feel on paper a 6766 would have been a better choice power wise, but I don't think I'll be able to hook with those maxed out. The biggest tire I can run in the front is a 255-40-18, which is a 26" tall tire. Only hoosier makes this size for me too. So the biggest I can go in the rear is 315-35-18, which hoosier, toyo, and MT do not make. I'm going to run 245-40-18 in the front and 305-35-18 in the rear. It's a 2.7% differance. We need to stay around 3% max, but less if possible. I don't think with that size of tire I can hook with 2000whp. If I hook with 1500whp I'll be on the phone with FP pre ordering an FP6766 or larger trust me. At the rate things are going by next year the big GTR's will be making 2500whp. These events will eventually need to be regulated by turbo or tire size like drag racing or it's just gonna come down to who will have the most power (aka the biggest wallet). Regulating the event makes it come down to the best driver, reaction time, and most effective set up for that tire class.

Yes, Frank is my local buddy. His car is a monster! It has a lot more left in it, but sadly he has put it up for sale for $160,000. He just spent $30,000 on a complete carbon fiber body shell too. He switched away from the holinger because he was nervous that it was going to blow because of the low power rating holinger gave him. When he opened the trans up the gears looked brand new. So we know holinger underrates these gearbox's. Evoms also had one of these put in mayhem when it ran the 215.xx half mile. We ordered the same exact gear ratio's. As far as the nth viper I have a feeling it will have a bigger turbo set up for the next event .

Sounds like you have a monster as well. Too bad you're not in the US. I might be adding a 2015 Viper TA to the garage in summer.
You may want to consider modifying the frame, body and chassis as necessary to make big tires fit. I'm running 345/35 - 18's in the back and I can barely get traction until 4th gear. You're in good hands and with your experience and knowledge in fast cars I'm sure you will get it done.

Frank should get the award for the most money ever spent on a Viper. Seriously, he probably has double the amount already invested in the car and this is not including the price of a GEN 3 Viper. That's a hell of a deal.

2015 Viper is a piece of trash. You can get much better and more capable daily driver sports car for that price. This is coming from a 1400 whp TT Viper owner I would recommend C7 Z06 if you want American muscle or a GTR if you don't mind hanging around in a Nissan.
 
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You may want to consider modifying the frame, body and chassis as necessary to make big tires fit. I'm running 345/35 - 18's in the back and I can barely get traction until 4th gear. You're in good hands and with your experience and knowledge in fast cars I'm sure you will get it done.

Frank should get the award for the most money ever spent on a Viper. Seriously, he probably has double the amount already invested in the car and this is not including the price of a GEN 3 Viper. That's a hell of a deal.

2015 Viper is a piece of trash. You can get much better and more capable daily driver sports car for that price. This is coming from a 1400 whp TT Viper owner I would recommend C7 Z06 if you want American muscle or a GTR if you don't mind hanging around in a Nissan.
Maybe, we'll see. I'll be doing a lot of testing soon. I have 3 sets of wheels and different tires and sizes to test LOL....

Yeah Frank's car is a steal, he's over a $500,000 into that car.

Man why do you say that. I was really looking forward to driving that car in the near future. Might have to rethink it I guess. I'm not really a vette guy. Cool car, just not for me. I was thinking about a GTR, but idk I feel like everyone has one. I'm going to try and drive a 997 GT2 then a viper back to back in the same day. Only issue is finding a GT2 for sale at a local dealer. Might have to travel to make that happen. No rush though....
 
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Here are the new ADV.1 18" wheels we will use for the half-mile event. They came out PERFECT! Loving the Gloss Bronze....
 
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Here are the new ADV.1 18" wheels we will use for the half-mile event. They came out PERFECT! Loving the Gloss Bronze....
Very nice ! They look a lot like my ats racelight but a little more expensive look .

What is the weight ?
 
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Here is a pic of the final assembly. Enjoy...
 
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She finished the break in period yesterday. Ryan begins tuning tomorrow!

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Very nice ! They look a lot like my ats racelight but a little more expensive look .

What is the weight ?
I don't have the final numbers yet. I will weigh them when I get to Evoms Friday.
 
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Anxious to see this thing run bro
 
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Anxious to see this thing run bro
I'll text you at the airstrip this weekend. There is a LP570 stage 3 SL there, should be fun!
 
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I'll text you at the airstrip this weekend. There is a LP570 stage 3 SL there, should be fun!
Awesome, have fun and be safe
 


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