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this is the cheapest place i found a 5 gallon drum..
$71. / $14 a gallon
http://www.goestores.com/storename/h...-10490215.aspx
$71. / $14 a gallon
http://www.goestores.com/storename/h...-10490215.aspx
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this is the cheapest place i found a 5 gallon drum..
$71. / $14 a gallon
http://www.goestores.com/storename/h...-10490215.aspx
$71. / $14 a gallon
http://www.goestores.com/storename/h...-10490215.aspx
That's about the same cost as it is at the pumps.
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I'll have some performance numbers for Champion 68vtgs on 94 octane pretty soon
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I've seen enough cars to agree with you...but my question is still not answered on built block 3.8-3.9-4.0....what are numbers on pump gas.....magic unicorn ...I was looking for more like magic fairy dust
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I have a built 3.6 and I'm making about 760 on 93 and 820 on 100 octane.
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Like prodigymb started this thread, why even bother to "push the limits" on 93 octane when you can easily buy something with more octane? It'd be a better use of money (and probably cost you less in the end) to buy a proven FlexFuel-friendly ECM (ProEFI, Motec, etc), run a more common turbo setup (some variant of a 30R sized turbos), and buy 55 gal drums of E98. That way you can run any blend of ethanol without having to make any adjustments yourself (as opposed to having to drain your gas tank if you wanted to switch from a 93 tune to a C16/VP Import).
Several members have proven that with a proper ECM, a fully built stock displacement motor can put you above 1100 WHP. Reality is there's only so much Ignition Timing & Boost you can run before you hit the limitation of fuel octane.
Several members have proven that with a proper ECM, a fully built stock displacement motor can put you above 1100 WHP. Reality is there's only so much Ignition Timing & Boost you can run before you hit the limitation of fuel octane.
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Why would I push limits...I'm not looking for 1000whp....I'm not mixing any type of fuel unless I'm at event or track...I'm just looking for a safe 3.8 -4.0 built turbo on 93 oct....with two normal turbos...I'm actually looking for the funnest car not the fastest ...850 whp would be nice....
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Why would I push limits...I'm not looking for 1000whp....I'm not mixing any type of fuel unless I'm at event or track...I'm just looking for a safe 3.8 -4.0 built turbo on 93 oct....with two normal turbos...I'm actually looking for the funnest car not the fastest ...850 whp would be nice....
The problem is by sticking to 93 octane, you're gonna have to run low Ignition Timing, which is really going to kill spool, make a "peaky" powerband, and not be very fun to drive.
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You're "pushing" the safe tuning limits of 93 octane fuel. Financially this makes zero sense, because you can have mid-700 WHP on a stock motor with Race Gas/E85 & 850 WHP with just rods The problem is by sticking to 93 octane, you're gonna have to run low Ignition Timing, which is really going to kill spool, make a "peaky" powerband, and not be very fun to drive.
The problem is by sticking to 93 octane, you're gonna have to run low Ignition Timing, which is really going to kill spool, make a "peaky" powerband, and not be very fun to drive.
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