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I'm very excited about my future purchase. I made a decision to sell my sti and my vr4 and buy the car I truly want, a 997 turbo. I'll be looking for a 07-09. It will be built into a nice 650awhp car with gt2 styling.
On the real note, what are the things I should look for and questions I should ask before buying. I will be in search of a black, grey or silver 6 speed car. Hopefully something in the 30-40k miles range.
Maintenance issues?
recalls?
Etc.
Thanks in advance for the help guys.
This is basically the end goal.
Last edited by flewis763; Jun 20, 2015 at 09:01 PM.
When I got my 07 I search for DME reports thru Porsche dealers instead of private sellers.
Enjoy the search...
What are dme reports if I may ask. I'm new on how porsche dealers do service and how they log everything.
On a side note I am a guy that does all his own work on cars but I basically have own performance shop at home. I do a lot of work for people when I'm not working as well.
I would go to the dealer if I needed something like and engine rebuild though.
Last edited by flewis763; Jun 20, 2015 at 09:26 PM.
You want to get a PPI done on any car you are seriously interested in. They typically cost $2-300 done by a Porsche Dealer. You need to look at the DME report which will show the number of over-revs the car has had. Basically there are various degrees of over-rev, and in the 997 Turbo they are broken down into Ranges 1-6. This topic is covered quite substantially in the forums, but in a nutshell, you don't want any, but if the car has had any over revs in Range 4, 5, or 6 they are more serious. 4 isn't a huge issue, but from my research 5 and 6 definitely are. The engine is very dependable and dare I say considered "bullet proof" so you really want to ensure the car has just been taken car of. The DME report shows when the over-rev occurred by overall engine hours. So, if the car had a stage 4 over-rev 20,000 miles ago, its evidence that it didn't really harm the engine, or something would have come to surface already. I'm no expert on the subject, but that's a brief overview. I just bought my 997 Turbo last week... I love it!
You want to get a PPI done on any car you are seriously interested in. They typically cost $2-300 done by a Porsche Dealer. You need to look at the DME report which will show the number of over-revs the car has had. Basically there are various degrees of over-rev, and in the 997 Turbo they are broken down into Ranges 1-6. This topic is covered quite substantially in the forums, but in a nutshell, you don't want any, but if the car has had any over revs in Range 4, 5, or 6 they are more serious. 4 isn't a huge issue, but from my research 5 and 6 definitely are. The engine is very dependable and dare I say considered "bullet proof" so you really want to ensure the car has just been taken car of. The DME report shows when the over-rev occurred by overall engine hours. So, if the car had a stage 4 over-rev 20,000 miles ago, its evidence that it didn't really harm the engine, or something would have come to surface already. I'm no expert on the subject, but that's a brief overview. I just bought my 997 Turbo last week... I love it!
Thanks for the info. What the hell is over Rev for these? Don't they have limiters like ever other vehicle. I'll do some more research on it too.
Im might just work will valley imports in Fargo nd to find the right car. They are the only porsche dealer in the state. I'd think if I gave them the list of stuff I want they could find me a car in a month or two
Thanks for the info. What the hell is over Rev for these? Don't they have limiters like ever other vehicle. I'll do some more research on it too. Im might just work will valley imports in Fargo nd to find the right car. They are the only porsche dealer in the state. I'd think if I gave them the list of stuff I want they could find me a car in a month or two
Over revs are not necessarily show stoppers. Over rev 4-6 are most likely a slight miss shift. Even if it's .1 sec, it will record on the DME. Like someone above said, it comes down to hours after. If say 1,000 operating hours or 20k miles has gone by with an over rev of 4-6. It's all good and nothing happened. If your car is under warranty and over rev of 5-6 within say 10 hours, then they may decline your warranty claims.
These motors can handle over revs. My tech says that severe over rev can break the timing chain which obviously throw off the timing. But if it didn't break then the motor is fine
Thanks for the info. What the hell is over Rev for these? Don't they have limiters like ever other vehicle. I'll do some more research on it too.
Im might just work will valley imports in Fargo nd to find the right car. They are the only porsche dealer in the state. I'd think if I gave them the list of stuff I want they could find me a car in a month or two
people here get WAY too excited about the low range over rev's. 1 and 2 are not really anything to even pay attention to. range 3-4 and up is cause for concern.
Check out the coolant pipe pining issue, as this will pop up on most cars and it's nice if it's already handled.
Solid choice on the gt2 spoiler too. my car has it and I wouldn't have it any other way.
3 and 4s on a tuned car are less of a concern from what I was told by a couple Porsche race team guys.
Yes and from an Excellence magazine tech article I read (which I will try and find again). Its not so much how fast the engine was spinning but rather Its how fast the engine accelerated from a low RPM to a high RPM, that's what causes the damage, as would happen in a missed shift situation.
Last edited by Boeing Driver; Jun 22, 2015 at 09:35 PM.
Yes and from an Excellence magazine tech article I read (which I will try and find again). Its not so much how fast the engine was spinning but rather Its how fast the engine accelerated from a low RPM to a high RPM, that's what causes the damage, as would happen in a missed shift situation.
So does it differenciate between a rev limit upshift (which on a tuned car I would assume is normal) and a say 4th to 2nd missed shift?
So does it differenciate between a rev limit upshift (which on a tuned car I would assume is normal) and a say 4th to 2nd missed shift?
From what I gathered from the article, since in a rev limit upshift the engine is already spinning at high rpm, moving to a slightly higher rpm in the red line is not nearly as bad as if the engine was spinning at say 3000 rpm in 4th and in almost an instant it went to 7800 or something by accidently going to second gear.
