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Should I fear a used modded 997.1 TT?

Old Jun 24, 2015 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by speedsterr
I DD my TTS. And before that I DD'd at 663 hp shelby gt500 2013. With time you get use to all of these and it becomes easy to control if you have any decent level of skill and common sense.

Too much power really is when the car can't handle it. The turbo I'd say doesn't really reach that point at least in the .2 up to 650 hp.



I got my 12 TTS back in december with 800 miles and every option you could get short of colored gauges and stitching (I really wish this guy did them both in yellow). He even did the seat belts and mats in red. Now it has 4500 miles. So you are saying I should stop driving my car because it will become be even more of a gem in a year or 2?
Do what you want with your car. All I'm saying is that when I see person looking for a tt they usually ask first for low mileage stock. I don't particularly care what you do to your car or how many miles you put on it.
 
Old Jun 24, 2015 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by kwiksilver
Do what you want with your car. All I'm saying is that when I see person looking for a tt they usually ask first for low mileage stock. I don't particularly care what you do to your car or how many miles you put on it.
No I wasn't trying to be an a$$, I was being serious. Because I want a 2015 and if really low milage makes THAT big a difference then that's good to know.
 
Old Jun 24, 2015 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Flat Earth
First post here. I'm thinking about a 997 TT. I found one local to me that is generally what I want (manual, Sports Chrono) but it has been modded. The price seems reasonable ($70K Cdn= $55K USD) but the mileage is somewhat high (80K miles). The car has been modded. The description is:
"In addition to its factory options, the car also has a Milltek exhaust system, upgraded turbochargers, a brand new sport clutch, lower Eibach suspension, spacers, brand new wheels and tires and an APR tuned computer. With these mods, the car produces over 560 hp!"
I'm assuming the car has been tracked. Other than the DME, what else should I be checking for?
For the good stories, there are also plenty of bad stories. Cars with mods that have become instant problems for the new owner. APR is not a huge Porsche tuner, much bigger in VW and Audi. Over revs from the DME will tell a big story on this one. High mileage means that things will fail even on a stock car. Beyond the motor issue, check brakes, tires and suspension components. Car has springs, but no shocks? The shocks and struts are probably worn out. Keep in mind you usually get what you pay for and you don't want to buy someone else's problems. Also, ALWAYS meter the paint. I made the mistake once and i won't do it again. Low mileage modded car, maybe, high mileage, I would pass.
 
Old Jun 25, 2015 | 07:25 PM
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I can't say that you should fear a modded car, but it seems that a PPI would be advisable.
And apologies in advance if this is OT, but my indy claims that the preferred cars to purchase, are the stock, unmodified vehicles. He says that in the umpteen years that he has been in business, he recommends stock vehicles when asked for purchase advice.

Good luck in your search and purchase.
 
Old Jun 26, 2015 | 10:09 AM
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If you modify something the chance of something going wrong is going to increase, nobody is going to argue with that. If you are willing to deal with the potential headaches because you want the extra power then it's actually a good deal to buy a used modified car because the seller usually only gets a small percentage on what they actually spent on the modifications. Once you set your mind to getting a used modified car then a PPI is essential. Not only will the mechanic thoroughly check out the car but you will also get a dme report(over rev report) which will show how hard the engine was run.

Personally I would not consider a car with an engine modified beyond an ecu tune. I've been modifying cars for decades and I've modified cars to lvls far beyond stock and what I learned is that if the car is not close to the performance you want when it's stock then maybe you need to find a different car.
 
Old Jun 26, 2015 | 06:31 PM
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This topic has been beating death, some like it stock and some like to mod to their liking. If you mod your car, make sure you have documentation to back up your progress and future sale. You really can't sell a mod car and not knowing what you or prior owner did. Personally if the mod has been done by professional shop with reputation parts/equipment I prolly would buy it. I wouldn't buy cheap mods or undocumented modded cars.
 
Old Jun 26, 2015 | 06:48 PM
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Fear a car with new rims and tyres. To me, thats a give away of a tracked car. Other than that, Minor Mods make the car more enjoyable. I love how some people shy away from modded cars, yet I know so many who mod and beat the crap out of cars, then put them back to stock, throw new rims and tyres on and call the car babied and sell them for lots of $$$$$
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Old Jun 26, 2015 | 09:24 PM
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I can offer my personal opinion here - I'm sure most on this forum will agree with the following...

In most cases real enthusiasts are on forums like this, and as such there is complete history of the vehicle you may need in determining the type of questions and problems the owner has had with the car. If they don't want to provide that (or don't have it) then the next step would be to ask for all the service and parts records.

For every component I have added, I have spent considerable time researching it. Hence on that note, if I knew the complete provenance of the car and the owner, would I be interested in buying it, absolutely.

My car as an example, would I buy it - in a second. Would I be selling it, absolutely not!

Which opens up an interesting question. If they "loved" this car, why are they selling?
Personally, my car, and the time and money I have invested into it is PERFECT.
Would I want to part with it. Absolutely not!
...actually I see my kids owning it one day.

So why are they selling?
Or was this a passing hobby for an owner, that didn't work out quite right and now its on the selling block.
 
Old Jun 27, 2015 | 07:05 AM
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Short answer - YES (although that fear can be quickly overcome with a complete set of service/maintenance records and a list of modded parts accompanied with which shop did the work).

I can't speak for other but the primary reason why I bought a stock car was that (1) modifications are very personal decisions and I spend quite a bit of time researching the mods I want to do (which tune, which exhaust, to do's or not to do's such as IPD plenum, Y-pipe, suspension mods [who to choose Bilstein vs. KW]- etc). Unless I've done my research beforehand and know exactly which mods I would want on my car, buying a modded car would require me to rely on the prior owner's tastes and judgement! (2) certain mods (specifically engine mods) accelerate wear and tear on certain parts which isn't a deal breaker on its own but why complete service/maintenance records would be critical to me.
 
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Should I fear a used modded 997.1 TT?

Is all about who owned it and how it was run.
I've seen some good ones and some really bad ones
 
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Old Jun 27, 2015 | 04:54 PM
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Very useful info here. Thanks. The dealer didn't reply to my query about who makes the turbo, clutch and wheels. That's a bad sign and I'm not going to bother.
 
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